Gear is for art. Art are politics

[PannySVHS]

Hey cats!

 

I am in need of some specific and very direct act of support.

An answer to my question from my thread I posted yesterday.

What is the best 0.5x wide angle adapter for 52 lens thread?

 

Also, if some Berlin residents could support with lending two Pinza clamp lamps 250-500W for three days

or an Easyrig as well, how about a GH5 so I can avoid the nasty battery life of my GX85.

That is the groovy thing about having stuff and blessings, sharing it, and may that be knowledge.

@Ed_David, @Andrew Reid, you guys know a trick for a nice 0.5x ww adapter?

 

http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/25692-i´m-lousy-i-need-help-best-ww-adapter-in-52mm-berlin-residents-around/

 

[Emanuel]

5 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

In the UK the other day there was a news piece on this guy... Karl Popper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

It's interesting because it shows the paradox of today's liberal society...

The US society is tolerant enough to allow the display of nazi flags outside houses under free speech laws and right wing protests in the streets under expensive police escorts, and it's tolerant enough to allow these people to arm themselves with several automatic weapons at once.

The more tolerant we become, the more the door opens to the intolerant ones, the more freedom they have to wreak havoc and destroy tolerance. So Karl Popper argued (in 1945 no less) that for a society to be truly tolerant it has to be "intolerant of intolerance".

I suppose in the case Ed raised of alleged discrimination by a photo company, we shouldn't tolerate it, he's right on that. But I am also against building a wall between us and every single person in the company because of the wrongdoings of a few of their management, and I still really don't know if Ed is talking about a shop or a manufacturer.

I suppose the point of Ed's post was to get us all talking and I'm fine with a bit of politics every now and again.

I just don't agree that race has much to do with talking about cameras. It's a privilege but not just a white one.

Great post, man... : ) My hat :-)

[iamoui]

20 hours ago, Ed_David said:

I obsess over image fidelity, skintones, and motion cadence.

That is a political act.

Because im an upper middle class white guy so i am allowed to do this.

So are most of you.

Its called white priveliege.

And we are not in a vacumn

The president of the united states is a white nationalist and is wrecking havoc.

And where are we? Defending a photo company that discriminates against women and race.

Classy.

https://www.workplacefairness.org/sexual-gender-discrimination#2

@Ed_David I don't understand your post, or what point you're intending to get across. What does the color of one's skin have to do with anything? When you identify and group people by the color of their skin that is called racism. Why can't everyone be treated as individuals? Identity politics is a zero-sum game. Don't play it.

Our president isn't a white nationalist, he's a buffoon. Quit drinking the regressive kool-aid and stop the virtue signaling.

[jcs]

Like many people world wide, I think David is feeling powerless as he realizes that the world is not what he was led to believe. Perhaps he's trying to contribute something meaningful so his life has meaning. Based on his world view as helping right wrongs. We all should speak up about discrimination, wherever it happens, in a kind and stern way.

The "photo company*" that everyone references and won't say the name, everyone really knows who it is, and this is disingenuous. I didn't read that thread but saw recently that it was locked when someone posted that they lost a class action lawsuit. Give them positive energy and love and see if they have changed their ways for the better. If they have not, give them reasons in a kind way to stay the right path (as in kindly, without hate remind them, and if necessary do business elsewhere). I personally like this company and hope they will stay on course and do the right things moving forward. If not, I'll take my business elsewhere.

It's important not to call people names: perception is projection. You must see those traits in yourself before you can use those words on others. If someone is acting in a harmful way, talk about the actions and how they can be improved vs. ad hominem. What's happening right now in DC is theater: who knows what's really going on. All we can say with some confidence is that there is a force at work to create division and hate, to divide and conquer the USA and the World. What we, the people can do, is ignore the messaging of hate and division, and instead spread love and kindness, knowing that it's all of our responsibilities to unite and come together in peace. We have the true power, and if we don't unite together in peace we'll lose all of our freedom and maybe our lives. The stakes are high.

This political storm is happening because the US/Global FIAT petro-dollar currency system is on the verge of collapse. Crypto currency is a direct result of this, that's why bitcoin and similar are going crazy right now. A new system of currency/energy-trade is needed, and the people controlling the current/old system aren't ready to let go of power: absolute power corrupts absolutely. The trickle down effect is people feel powerless and helpless, and want to do something positive (in their mind) to help. Which is what I think David was doing in these posts.

There are also powerful psychological tools being employed through mainstream media, as well as through artificial intelligence systems reading social media posts for feedback, which I won't go into in more detail as that is controversial in itself. All I ask is do your own research and look for patterns and try to see the bigger picture.

I encourage everyone to share the knowledge about what is really going on in the world / politics / currency / war, in a kind way, and even better, create videos using messages of love and unity, even better through metaphors and simple parables, to help people see the light at the end of the tunnel, and more importantly, to help everyone have hope for the future.

To help clear the mind, avoid processed foods and sugar, eat more vegetables and organic foods, avoid tap water (fluoride), take boron supplements to excrete fluoride in food, take DIM to excrete xeno-estrogens from plastics and insecticides, magnesium malate to excrete aluminum and lead, alpha lipoic acid to excrete mercury, and CoQ10 for energy (instead of caffeine or tobacco).

Stanley Kubrick knew a lot more than he could tell us directly and he may have lost his life as a result of what he was trying to tell us in his last film.

 

* BH

[mercer]

Idk, I think he sometimes drops bombs and then watches from the sidelines as arguments and discussions ensue. 

[jcs]

1 minute ago, mercer said:

Idk, I think he sometimes drops bombs and then watches from the sidelines as arguments and discussions ensue. 

So let's turn it around: good practice for the 'real world' in diffusing and healing division. The mind control programs are powerful, he may not even be aware he's doing it. Or again maybe he's trying to right wrongs and doesn't have much time to interact in the threads? There are wealthy people/orgs who pay people to do this, to create division and hate, however I don't think that's the case with David.

[mercer]

"Art are politics" 

Oh art they?

[jcs]

6 minutes ago, mercer said:

"Art are politics" 

Oh art they?

Art is a magnificent way to get an idea across using abstraction and metaphors!

[PannySVHS]

hey ppz,

so, some specific support for the underpreviliged in knowledge, that would be me

Any awesome wide angle adapters 0.5x factor in 52 or 55 or 58 thread? So far, over 70 readers of my original post but no one sharing knowledge:

 

Also, no Berliners around here showing some love and lending some equipment?

[Dick Sweeney]

Sharpness is a bourgeois concept

– Henri Cartier Bresson

[User]

3 hours ago, jcs said:

Like many people world wide, I think David is feeling powerless as he realizes that the world is not what he was led to believe. Perhaps he's trying to contribute something meaningful so his life has meaning.

 

Hilarious! Oh the irony.

[jcs]

2 hours ago, User said:

 

Hilarious! Oh the irony.

Lol where's the irony? We're all in the same boat, brother  

[Ehetyz]

5 hours ago, Dick Sweeney said:

Sharpness is a bourgeois concept

– Henri Cartier Bresson

Check your bitrate privilege.

[User]

Absolutely, JCS.
My remark is formed around a sensibility born from my online activity here, and elsewhere - not by any means the measure of a persons character in total - though in that, I sense noticeable divergence between you and our dear David, in spirit.
That you should give him the benefit of the doubt is a nod of respect in your favour. But I am somehow left wondering if that would, or could, be returned by he whom you wish to give licence. So I find satire in it, and thus my comment.  And though that is a measure of my values, I see the value of your gesture... thank you again for all that you contribute here.

Come on Dave... pull it together, man.

And yes, we are in the same boat.

19 minutes ago, Ehetyz said:

Check your bitrate privilege.

I want to patent this remark.

[PannySVHS]

 

You threee posters above are worth of what you might consider my insult. Or maybe you don´t deserve my harsh attack:

You four! posters above have been ignoring my quest for specific support!

I understand you, being ashamed of not being able to provide knowledge about good wide angle adapters!

Nothing to be ashamed of, saying: "Panny, I cannot help you on wide angle adapters. These converters are

not supposed to be used by the high end user of sophisticated taste." That would be much better than being quiete about it.

You five! posters are of sophisticated taste! That was my insult.

 

@Ed_David, It was in the beginning era of Skinhead movement, when Jamaican immigrant kids gave them poor working class kids Ska and Soul music,

they were brothers and sisters! Solidarity and cool music. Racsim later infiltrated that proud and powerful youth movement and life style. Pride was pushed towards

the matter of skin tone. In "Harlan County USA", the oscar winning doc filmmaker and her team show a lot of stuff, which might be

from another culture than yours. It shows blackness of coalminers, there is no skin color as a dividing but unifying factor.

The discourse of white guilt is one of ruling class to equalize responsibility

for the crimes of the past and the future. Since whiteness can never be overcome, so shall not be the social, economic and

judical differences. Whiteness and white privilegue are hypocrite terms of a hypocrite racist and chauvinist strategy to

rule above and exploit others. Punk went from the US to Europe, got political, went back to the US, went to GDR, to Poland,

to the USSR, all which are called Eastern Block now! There is a lot of stuff, the term white privilegue neglects. On purpose.

On purpose. Believe me. They do it on purpose! Oh, my diction is getting it wrong now, thought it was being my trump:)

 

Ed David is an awesome name, I call that a true privilegue!

 

 

[hmcindie]

I don't get it. What is Ed trying to say?

[jonpais]

13 hours ago, jcs said:

Like many people world wide, I think David is feeling powerless as he realizes that the world is not what he was led to believe. Perhaps he's trying to contribute something meaningful so his life has meaning. Based on his world view as helping right wrongs. We all should speak up about discrimination, wherever it happens, in a kind and stern way.

The "photo company*" that everyone references and won't say the name, everyone really knows who it is, and this is disingenuous. I didn't read that thread but saw recently that it was locked when someone posted that they lost a class action lawsuit. Give them positive energy and love and see if they have changed their ways for the better. If they have not, give them reasons in a kind way to stay the right path (as in kindly, without hate remind them, and if necessary do business elsewhere). I personally like this company and hope they will stay on course and do the right things moving forward. If not, I'll take my business elsewhere.

It's important not to call people names: perception is projection. You must see those traits in yourself before you can use those words on others. If someone is acting in a harmful way, talk about the actions and how they can be improved vs. ad hominem. What's happening right now in DC is theater: who knows what's really going on. All we can say with some confidence is that there is a force at work to create division and hate, to divide and conquer the USA and the World. What we, the people can do, is ignore the messaging of hate and division, and instead spread love and kindness, knowing that it's all of our responsibilities to unite and come together in peace. We have the true power, and if we don't unite together in peace we'll lose all of our freedom and maybe our lives. The stakes are high.

This political storm is happening because the US/Global FIAT petro-dollar currency system is on the verge of collapse. Crypto currency is a direct result of this, that's why bitcoin and similar are going crazy right now. A new system of currency/energy-trade is needed, and the people controlling the current/old system aren't ready to let go of power: absolute power corrupts absolutely. The trickle down effect is people feel powerless and helpless, and want to do something positive (in their mind) to help. Which is what I think David was doing in these posts.

There are also powerful psychological tools being employed through mainstream media, as well as through artificial intelligence systems reading social media posts for feedback, which I won't go into in more detail as that is controversial in itself. All I ask is do your own research and look for patterns and try to see the bigger picture.

I encourage everyone to share the knowledge about what is really going on in the world / politics / currency / war, in a kind way, and even better, create videos using messages of love and unity, even better through metaphors and simple parables, to help people see the light at the end of the tunnel, and more importantly, to help everyone have hope for the future.

To help clear the mind, avoid processed foods and sugar, eat more vegetables and organic foods, avoid tap water (fluoride), take boron supplements to excrete fluoride in food, take DIM to excrete xeno-estrogens from plastics and insecticides, magnesium malate to excrete aluminum and lead, alpha lipoic acid to excrete mercury, and CoQ10 for energy (instead of caffeine or tobacco).

Stanley Kubrick knew a lot more than he could tell us directly and he may have lost his life as a result of what he was trying to tell us in his last film.

 

* BH

Our drinking water is turning the frogs gay.

[Tim Sewell]

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Stanley Kubrick knew a lot more than he could tell us directly and he may have lost his life as a result of what he was trying to tell us in his last film.

Didn't Sonny Bono assassinate Kubrick?

[Ed_David]

Great discussion guys.

All i was trying to say is camera discussion is a means to an end.

The end is using our cameras for positive change.

And even a forum about barbie dolls is an act of political choice. To waste our time so the bad people can continue.

And yes i need to do more good.

And we all can.

But priveliedge gives us time to work on craft.

And films do change lives.

Sometimes.

And sometimes they just appeal to people who already believe.

Cnn for instance created trump.

And artists need to show people how bad he is.

We have an opioid and class addiction we need to address.

And yes my grammar and spelling needs to be addressed.

20 hours ago, jcs said:

Like many people world wide, I think David is feeling powerless as he realizes that the world is not what he was led to believe. Perhaps he's trying to contribute something meaningful so his life has meaning. Based on his world view as helping right wrongs. We all should speak up about discrimination, wherever it happens, in a kind and stern way.

The "photo company*" that everyone references and won't say the name, everyone really knows who it is, and this is disingenuous. I didn't read that thread but saw recently that it was locked when someone posted that they lost a class action lawsuit. Give them positive energy and love and see if they have changed their ways for the better. If they have not, give them reasons in a kind way to stay the right path (as in kindly, without hate remind them, and if necessary do business elsewhere). I personally like this company and hope they will stay on course and do the right things moving forward. If not, I'll take my business elsewhere.

It's important not to call people names: perception is projection. You must see those traits in yourself before you can use those words on others. If someone is acting in a harmful way, talk about the actions and how they can be improved vs. ad hominem. What's happening right now in DC is theater: who knows what's really going on. All we can say with some confidence is that there is a force at work to create division and hate, to divide and conquer the USA and the World. What we, the people can do, is ignore the messaging of hate and division, and instead spread love and kindness, knowing that it's all of our responsibilities to unite and come together in peace. We have the true power, and if we don't unite together in peace we'll lose all of our freedom and maybe our lives. The stakes are high.

This political storm is happening because the US/Global FIAT petro-dollar currency system is on the verge of collapse. Crypto currency is a direct result of this, that's why bitcoin and similar are going crazy right now. A new system of currency/energy-trade is needed, and the people controlling the current/old system aren't ready to let go of power: absolute power corrupts absolutely. The trickle down effect is people feel powerless and helpless, and want to do something positive (in their mind) to help. Which is what I think David was doing in these posts.

There are also powerful psychological tools being employed through mainstream media, as well as through artificial intelligence systems reading social media posts for feedback, which I won't go into in more detail as that is controversial in itself. All I ask is do your own research and look for patterns and try to see the bigger picture.

I encourage everyone to share the knowledge about what is really going on in the world / politics / currency / war, in a kind way, and even better, create videos using messages of love and unity, even better through metaphors and simple parables, to help people see the light at the end of the tunnel, and more importantly, to help everyone have hope for the future.

To help clear the mind, avoid processed foods and sugar, eat more vegetables and organic foods, avoid tap water (fluoride), take boron supplements to excrete fluoride in food, take DIM to excrete xeno-estrogens from plastics and insecticides, magnesium malate to excrete aluminum and lead, alpha lipoic acid to excrete mercury, and CoQ10 for energy (instead of caffeine or tobacco).

Stanley Kubrick knew a lot more than he could tell us directly and he may have lost his life as a result of what he was trying to tell us in his last film.

 

* BH

Love this. Yes dr strangelove and mash were incredibly important acts of art.

So is dunkirk.

 

So is making a murderer .

[User]

Oh look everyone, Ed came back to tell us how he thinks it should be. Bless his little heart.