Arikhan Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 @BTM_Pix Just expecting to see some 4k low light footage and then hold it in my hands and do some test shots. Last week I've buyed a Zeiss Otus 28mm 1.4...with Nikon F - now I only wait for the proof of the D850 qualities. BTW: I shot the Zeiss with a cheap K&F Nikon2NX adapter on the NX 1 some days ago. Colors, contrast and detail are mindblowing - from edge to edge...Can hardly wait to see this exceptional lens on a D850... gethin, Kisaha and BTM_Pix 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Autofocus still sucks, but we knew that would happen without phase detection on sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arikhan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 @Lars Steenhoff Nice video, thanks for sharing. Remember the hateful title of the thread? "...d850 nothing to see here - move along ...". It seems, the GH5 and the a7r ii have to "move along" in some case... No offense for Pana and Sony fanboys and pathetic mirrorles advocates, just a suffisant remark... Disclaimer: I use Nikon gear, but emotional investment in a brand is absolutely counterproductive. maxotics and dahlfors 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 still think the focus sucks even when tony thinks its better than a7r2 which i don't believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikhan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lars Steenhoff said: still think the focus sucks even when tony thinks its better than a7r2 which i don't believe Just quoting one of the numerous IMAX Hollywood blockbuster filmmakers in internet forums: "Pros use manual focus only. AF is only for pussies [...]" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yea pro's actually can't focus at all, they need to outsource that to a focus puller webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 13, 2017 Super Members Share Posted September 13, 2017 Curious to know why the price difference between the US and Europe (especially the UK) is much bigger for the D850 than it is on the other Nikon pro bodies. gethin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Arikhan said: Remember the hateful title of the thread? "...d850 nothing to see here - move along I'll happily admit I was wrong about the d800 too, when it came out the idea of a 36mp sensor with less noise than a 12mp (d700) was ludicrous (to me). I own it and love it. The title was because of the reasonable expectation of some basic features it should have to be interesting to this forum: filmmakers. This camera is not entirely off my wishlist, but if you were shooting 95% video I still say you'd be bonkers to have this camera on yours. And the title comes from my frustration with nikon, who have no cinema camera line to cannibalise for not pushing the envelope. High bitrate, h.265. Focus peaking in 4k, these aren't "you expect your camera to make you breakfast" things, heck even some sort of raw video should be feasible, even if in short bursts. I want to keep using nikon stuff, and I need a camera that I can shoot my stills and video with, but I'd be amazed if I bought this (especially at $5400AUD) that I wouldn't be kicking myself when the A7r3 came out: all it needs to do is have better 4k full frame than the a7r2 and it's already a better filmmakers camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Lot better image quality (colors + lowlight + clarity) on the D850 VS A7R2 and GH5. Apparently AF in video is also better than those two. Impressive. Damphousse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 3:58 AM, wolf33d said: Lot better image quality (colors + lowlight + clarity) on the D850 VS A7R2 and GH5. Apparently AF in video is also better than those two. Impressive. ISO 25600 part is unreal. Its like one or at least half stop better than A7R2, while sensor's actual S/N ratio is a bit higher in A7R2. Nikon has a better temporal noise reduction engine? Didn't expect that really. Damphousse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Tony must have been drunk in order to claim that contrast AF in D850 is better than phase AF in the A7r II, you can tell by the bad WB The camera store has their review up. Jordan summed it up quite nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damphousse Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 6:28 PM, wolf33d said: Lot better image quality (colors + lowlight + clarity) on the D850 VS A7R2 and GH5. Apparently AF in video is also better than those two. Impressive. Yes, an impressive comparison. I would not have thought that's how the cameras rank. Although the GH5 seems to have more information in that overhead light, but the overall image seems darker. I am not familiar with the autofocus on the other two cameras but the D850 is complete trash compared to what Canon has going on. It is amazing how DPAF has become essential. Obviously the GH5's IBIS is another almost essential tool now. I would love to see the D850 and GH5 each tweaked to their best settings (speedbooster, log, WB, etc) and compared. The WB for the GH5 and A7R2 are terrible in this video and it just makes me wonder if other things have not been optimized. I mean I don't know what settings could explain away the low light results other than addition of a speedbooster but it would still be nice to see something really optimized. D850 looks like a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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