GH5 - VLog newbie - Simple Question

[Charlie]

Hello! Again!

Okay so I got Vlog today, installed ok, monitoring with the inbuilt 709 thingy!!

Question...I downloaded the official Panasonic LUTS which contain a VLT file and a CUBE file.

Inside Premiere, which one do I use and where do I apply it in Lumetri???.....I plan to stay away from third party creative luts until I get the hang of what I'm doing. I prefer creative grading manually as I want to learn, not just slam some M31 lut on my footage.

Apologies if this is obvious to some but this is my first foray into LOG filming. I plan to shoot everything in Cinema 4k 10 bit LOG from now whether it warrants it or not, weddings, funerals, pornos, the lot!!! 

Ta!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[apekkpul]

Another vlog neebie here - got mine last Thursday. I used curves in Premiere pro. i just set black and white points, and added a minor S curve.  looks ok for my uneducated eyes.

[sina_html]

In Premiere, select your clip in the timeline (or an adjustment layer above it if you work that way) and then go to the "Lumetri color" panel and in "basic correction" category, there is a "input LUT" dropdown, open it and select brows, find your cube file and select it. you are done. 

Also I recommend trying FilmConvert, with proper profiles of course.

1 hour ago, apekkpul said:

Another vlog neebie here - got mine last Thursday. I used curves in Premiere pro. i just set black and white points, and added a minor S curve.  looks ok for my uneducated eyes.

In my very limited experience with log footage, if you want to have accurate colors, you need to "transform" colors from whatever color space the log footage is using to your viewing or output format and it is properly done by the use of a manufacture provided formula (color transform matrix, LUT, IDT, ...) and eyeballing it is not really accurate. I'll be glad to hear more experienced members opinion on this matter.

[Charlie]

2 minutes ago, sina_html said:

In Premiere, select your clip in the timeline (or an adjustment layer above it if you work that way) and then go to the "Lumetri color" panel and in "basic correction" category, there is a "input LUT" dropdown, open it and select brows, find your cube file and select it. you are done. 

Also I recommend trying FilmConvert, with proper profiles of course.

In my very limited experience with log footage, if you want to have accurate colors, you need to "transform" colors from whatever color space the log footage is using to your viewing or output format and it is properly done by the use of a manufacture provided formula (color transform matrix, LUT, IDT, ...) and eyeballing it is not really accurate. I'll be glad to hear more experienced members opinion on this matter.

Thanks! will test it tomorrow....I have heard good things about the Panasonic Lut for getting yourself into "normal" colour space.

Havent tried Film Convert, tend to use Magic Bullet Film on an adjustment layer after tweaking/grading individual clips via Lumetri. And with Magic Bullet I use it very subtly......I used to go waaaaay overboard using Magic Bullet Looks...Yikes!!! lol

[sina_html]

For me, magic bullet looks is a good way to quickly try different looks and find some inspiration, and it has a lot of tools and it can be used subtly and professionally. Film convert has fewer looks, it has special profiles for major cameras so you get more predictable and constant results, but for me the best part of it is the film grain feature which is among the best ways to add grain that I've seen. 

[Charlie]

9 hours ago, sina_html said:

For me, magic bullet looks is a good way to quickly try different looks and find some inspiration, and it has a lot of tools and it can be used subtly and professionally. Film convert has fewer looks, it has special profiles for major cameras so you get more predictable and constant results, but for me the best part of it is the film grain feature which is among the best ways to add grain that I've seen. 

I'll check it out!