Arikhan Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Interesting: Sony just announced the new RX10 IV bridge camera (fixed lens F2.4-4.0), capable to shoot high bursts - 24fps per second with a buffer of 249 images, even in RAW. That means 10 seconds of RAW video. Great! mercer, maxotics and kaylee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 12, 2017 Super Members Share Posted September 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, Arikhan said: That means 10 seconds of RAW video. Great! Intentionally or is that just the point at which it stops because its overheated like their other cameras? Justin Bacle, Orangenz, Arikhan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikhan Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 C'mon @BTM_Pix, overheating is a feature...An important innovation, helping shooters to plan their takes carefully. It simply doesn't make sense nowadays to shoot Godfather IV in a single, continuous take. Overheating warnings are nothing but artistic reminders... BenEricson, ssrdd, Mattias Burling and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 12, 2017 Super Members Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Arikhan said: C'mon @BTM_Pix, overheating is a feature...An important innovation, helping shooters to plan their takes carefully. It simply doesn't make sense nowadays to shoot Godfahther IV in a single, continuous take. Overheating warnings are artistic reminders... This BenEricson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Arikhan said: C'mon @BTM_Pix, overheating is a feature...An important innovation, helping shooters to plan their takes carefully. It simply doesn't make sense nowadays to shoot Godfahther IV in a single, continuous take. Overheating warnings are nothing but artistic reminders... Weirdly phrased though.. I would respond better to a notification that says "you're playing god again!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 12, 2017 Super Members Share Posted September 12, 2017 Luca Brasi will only be able to have a power nap with the fishes then instead of the full sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Arikhan said: Interesting: Sony just announced the new RX10 IV bridge camera (fixed lens F2.4-4.0), capable to shoot high bursts - 24fps per second with a buffer of 249 images, even in RAW. That means 10 seconds of RAW video. Great! ...without sound, with unreliable frame rate, and probably with the need to hold your finger on the shutter release so that you will lose half of those 10 seconds because of camera shake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damphousse Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, cantsin said: ...without sound, with unreliable frame rate, and probably with the need to hold your finger on the shutter release so that you will lose half of those 10 seconds because of camera shake... The headline is a bit misleading but with a tripod and a cable release perhaps you can do it without shake. 10 seconds is a long time for certain clips. If you are doing quick cuts 10 seconds is an eternity. Niche use but I do family videos with short clips all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 hours ago, BTM_Pix said: Intentionally or is that just the point at which it stops because its overheated like their other cameras? Buffer runs out at that point, so the frame rate goes down since there is no space any more. 44 minutes ago, cantsin said: ...without sound, with unreliable frame rate, and probably with the need to hold your finger on the shutter release so that you will lose half of those 10 seconds because of camera shake... 10 seconds is a long time for a lot of stuff. Putting the camera on a tripod and triggering the sequence using your cell phone will eliminate any shake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 12, 2017 Super Members Share Posted September 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, tugela said: Buffer runs out at that point, so the frame rate goes down since there is no space any more. 10 seconds is a long time for a lot of stuff. I wasn't being entirely serious. And yes, 10 seconds can seem like an absolute lifetime for a lot of things. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Del Real Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Where does it say Raw? B&H says jpeg only for 24fps stills. "Buffer/Continuous Shooting Up to 24 fps at 20.1 MP for up to 249 Frames in JPEG Format" Justin Bacle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 24 fps bursts (4.6 seconds RAW, 10.3 seconds JPEG) less than 5s if shoot on RAW Damphousse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 12, 2017 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2017 Does it have a bigger buffer than the RX100 V? Seems unlikely to me as the buffer memory is part of the sensor, and they have the exact same sensor. I am actually surprised Sony bothered with this model... They should put it on a 2 year cycle with bigger differences between models. If the RX100 V style AF dramatically speeds up the telephoto end of that lens it will be a miracle as well maxotics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damphousse Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Perhaps time to change thread title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Does it have a bigger buffer than the RX100 V? Seems unlikely to me as the buffer memory is part of the sensor, and they have the exact same sensor. I am actually surprised Sony bothered with this model... They should put it on a 2 year cycle with bigger differences between models. If the RX100 V style AF dramatically speeds up the telephoto end of that lens it will be a miracle as well This is basically updating the RX10 line to the technology currently in the RX100 line, which should not be surprising. The RX line undergoes frequent iterative updates (well, not the RX1, which presumably does not sell well), and that is good since it keeps the line competitive. Sony probably sells enough of these things that they can afford to do that. I have not used a RX100M4, but own both the M3 and M5. Focusing is hugely improved in the M5 over the M3 (which focused painfully slowly and often you needed to use manual focus to get the thing to focus properly at all, especially in video). It certainly took a lot of the frustration out of using the RX100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssrdd Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 24-600mm[iv] F2.4-F4- same lens UHD full pixel readout-same resolution 1.0-type 20.1 MP Exmor RS CMOS stacked image sensor- same sensor DRAM chip along with a powerful BIONZ X™ image processor and front-end LSI-same bulshit high speed Anti-Distortion Shutte- same shutter 24p or 30p in 4K mode (100 Mbps)Xavcs- same codec 4k at max 30fps-same frame rate slowmotion 4 seconds buffer-same limitation No DCI4K No New codec[Rx10ii is very bad when intercut with FS7, visible softness, pixel noise] No 4k timelapse mode incamera Only thig changes is Newfocussing system and touch screen, Price is 1700$. whic is close to Panasonic GH5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssrdd Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ssrdd said: 24-600mm[iv] F2.4-F4- same lens UHD full pixel readout-same resolution 1.0-type 20.1 MP Exmor RS CMOS stacked image sensor- same sensor DRAM chip along with a powerful BIONZ X™ image processor and front-end LSI-same bulshit high speed Anti-Distortion Shutte- same shutter 24p or 30p in 4K mode (100 Mbps)Xavcs- same codec 4k at max 30fps-same frame rate slowmotion 4 seconds buffer-same limitation No DCI4K No New codec[Rx10ii is very bad when intercut with FS7, visible softness, pixel noise] No 4k timelapse mode incamera No 4:2:2 No ND filter No Dual cards slot Only thig changes is Newfocussing system and touch screen, Price is 1700$. whic is close to Panasonic GH5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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