TwoScoops Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 23/09/2017 at 11:55 AM, Kisaha said: In US only, 1 out of 6 females has been raped or being attempted to. 1 out of 5 is the stat they usually use actually, and I'm fairly sure it's bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 4 hours ago, TwoScoops said: 1 out of 5 is the stat they usually use actually, and I'm fairly sure it's bullshit. Wait you are "fairly sure" that a national study for the Department of Justice is "bullshit" based on what exactly? Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Ruggiero, Kenneth J.; Conoscenti, Lauren M.; McCauley, Jenna (July 2007). "Drug-facilitated, Incapacitated, and Forcible Rape: A National Study" And who is "they" ? Kisaha and Drew Allegre 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoScoops Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 55 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said: Wait you are "fairly sure" that a national study for the Department of Justice is "bullshit" based on what exactly? Kilpatrick, Dean G.; Resnick, Heidi S.; Ruggiero, Kenneth J.; Conoscenti, Lauren M.; McCauley, Jenna (July 2007). "Drug-facilitated, Incapacitated, and Forcible Rape: A National Study" And who is "they" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 @TwoScoops What is the point here? that sexual crimes are "too few"? How that exactly work if your mother/daughter/wife/girlfriend has been affected in any way? What if your wife's boss is trying to touch her while in work, or if your daughter had a couple of beers more that she should on a dorm party? and who exactly is this lady (I know who she is), and what are her initiatives? 248000 in 2001, 126000 and 188000 in 2009 and 2010, 570000 in 3 years are not enough for you??!! The whole country of Slovenia that won European Championship in basketball are a bit more than 2.000.000 people, almost as much as serious sexual crimes in US the last decade. 91,6% of rapes in Italy go unreported - 60% in US (95% among college students), in many nations in the world sexually assaulted women and kids are considered outcasts - even stoned to death, in some countries (that law passed in Turkey last year) doesn't considers a forceful sexual act as rape, as soon as the perpetrator marries(!) the victim. Instead of trying to minimize those numbers (even 1 is too much) they are not enough for you to sympathize, or be more responsible with your attitude towards victims of serious crimes? https://web.archive.org/web/20140201182537/http://sgdatabase.unwomen.org/searchDetail.action?measureId=26309&baseHREF=country&baseHREFId=675 all the official data is on the internet, there is no point put a dozen of links here, just sad that some humans are so far apart from reality. It is obvious that our communities need a lot of work and evolution steps to start act as an evolved specie, even us, the "lucky" ones in the western world seem to not really comprehend how an altruistic community lives, works, evolve. The good thing, is that politics are starting to play a major role in people's life, most of them for the very first time. You see American sports right now, it is all about equality, understanding and co operation. It isn't the most civil and productive exchange of ideas, but in the end, I hope political thinking, logic and reasoning will prevail, or not (e.g look at the outcome of "Arabic Spring" throughout the world"). This thing can go either way. Do not forget that after the most amazing democratic experiment in Ancient Greek city states, and a cynical productive Pax Romana (hardly a couple centuries in total, or less), followed 1500 years of dark ages. Just in case, don't be too close with your cats. You never know when the next Inquisition is coming, and maybe they will burn wizards, not witches. Don Kotlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/09/26/Saudi-Arabia-King-Salman-orders-driving-licenses-for-women.html in 2017... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 @iamoui ..and those are some of the best news regarding equality of sexes I heard in 2017! I read this the other day, victims have names, faces, lives, are not just numbers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/raped-never-spoke-one-day-work/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 9:19 AM, Kisaha said: @iamoui ..and those are some of the best news regarding equality of sexes I heard in 2017! I read this the other day, victims have names, faces, lives, are not just numbers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/raped-never-spoke-one-day-work/ Maybe in about 200 years or so KSA will stop flogging women for leaving the house without a male guardian or jailing bloggers or start letting women make their own decisions without a males approval or stop the mandatory covering of the head and body when women leave the house. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, iamoui said: Maybe in about 200 years or so KSA will stop flogging women for leaving the house without a male guardian or jailing bloggers or start letting women make their own decisions without a males approval or stop the mandatory covering of the head and body when women leave the house. Maybe. Well, hopefully now that Saudi Arabia realizes that women, over 30, are capable of driving in the daylight, they will influence Nikon to have a woman photographer in their group photo at a camera event #FStop #TheFisForFemale Kisaha and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sewell Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Quote What many discoveries are we missing due to the lack of private spending? Because it was sucked out of the economy by the government. Unfortunately the lion's share of the money left in the private sector tends to end up behind an anonymous brass plate in some tax haven, not financing wonderful new discoveries. I read the other day that without any form of government subsidy the passenger aircraft industry, to name but one, couldn't exist. Why? A new airliner design can take decades to show a return on capital - timescales that no bank will lend on. The only bodies able to swallow billions in spending on 10, 20, 30 year timescales are governments. If it had been left to the private sector we would not have realised the myriad advances brought about by the space programme, we would probably have 'just slightly better enough to get people to upgrade' bakelite phones and steam-powered computers. Our current world would be unrecognisably different to what it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 On 25/09/2017 at 8:46 PM, TwoScoops said: 1 out of 5 is the stat they usually use actually, and I'm fairly sure it's bullshit. are you fairly sure this is bulshit in the same way that there's a bunch of people that are fairly sure the world is flat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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