markr041 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Run and gun means one can carry around a camera with no rigs, poles, tripods or other aids shooting handheld, for hours. The FS700R needs the 7" Shogun Inferno attached by wire to shoot 4K60P and 120P RAW. Can this combo be used for run and gun? Well, if you think of the Shogun not as a monitor but as just an external recorder, then you can just put it in a shoulder bag. Convergent Design makes a very thin and flexible (you can tie it in knots they show) 3' SDI cable. So carry the recorder in a shoulder bag and shoot with the camera. The cable is so thin and flexible and long, it is as if it is not there (SDI cables also have more secure attachments than HDMI cables; no danger of the wire coming loose). To test this, I went to shoot the local chickens, in slo mo 4K. Cinematic chickens. Inferno in the shoulder bag, me, the camera and Zeiss 2470 FE OSS lens. From ProRes 422 HQ Slog2. mercer, SigurdW and Drew Allegre 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Allegre Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I love how in the last shot you can practically see the thought bubbles on the chickens, "is that guy running an inferno in a shoulder bag?" Cool setup! markr041 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Cool set up and great idea. Nice looking footage too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Nice chickentones tellure and mercer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Interesting. Would love some pics of the setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega1978 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 this is the setup IronFilm and thefactory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 26, 2017 Super Members Share Posted September 26, 2017 I've always wondered how long it would be before you stopped trying to resist and came to the dark side of heavy cinema gear The footage looks sweet imo. markr041 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 hours ago, omega1978 said: this is the setup To get that kind of footage I reckon I could get used to that. Shot with fs700 in the past. They are getting quite cheap we’re I live now, might be time. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 5 hours ago, omega1978 said: this is the setup Interesting! No issues ever with the cable? Would love to see BTS video of a shoot with this, as well as the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega1978 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 sorry if i not specified, but this is not my setup. only copy and past the link. markr041 is the owner.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Whoops! Should have taken more careful note of the usernames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I had thought about doing this in the past, kinda figured the 7Q would generate too much heat. I always found the fs700/slog2 to be very difficult to grade. I kinda wish you could have the option to get some sort of cine profile to output. I do miss the sharpness and 4k/120. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 The cable. From ConvergentDesign: "The Odyssey Ultra-Thin SDI Cable is a flexible and lightweight cable for use with the Odyssey7 and Odyssey7Q [obviously any SDI 3G recorder]. The SDI cable is rated for 3G signals and is useful in camera-mounted installations where its thinness and flexibility will help keep it out of the way for operators. Despite its small size, the SDI Cable is quite rugged and can even be tied in knots without effecting performance. Standard length is 36” with custom lengths available on special order." As you can see from my picture posted above, the cable is very thin , it has the usual BNC locks, so it does not get loose. And it is indeed very flexible and light, so it truly does not interfere with moving the camera around given the 3-foot length and the fact that the recorder is close by hanging on one's body. Heat. The Atomos does get very hot. The latest firmware: "Adjusted Temperature Control thresholds for non ventilated environments." seems to expect use like this. In 1.5 hours of shooting in 86-degree Fahrenheit temperature with the Inferno never turned off and in the bag there were no issues. I got hot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sewell Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Quote I always found the fs700/slog2 to be very difficult to grade. I kinda wish you could have the option to get some sort of cine profile to output. The Inferno gives you the option of using what I presume is their own version of SLog3 when recording from the FS700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 mercer and Mark Tincho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 4K 120P Slow Motion Test Video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 These look really good. Would you get similar results with the fs5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 6 hours ago, thefactory said: These look really good. Would you get similar results with the fs5? As far as I know, the FS5 has the same sensor as the FS700 (and FS7). I would expect the results to be at least as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I think FS700 and FS7 are different sensors??? And the FS7 is using the F5 sensor But yes, FS700 and FS5 share the same sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 5:05 PM, markr041 said: 4K 120P Slow Motion Test Video: With the high-speed capability, you can shoot videos like this: Just get a few smoke bombs and you're set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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