webrunner5 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Most of the cheap C500's I have seen are PL mount, and by the time you buy a external recorder to do 4k well, you might as well buy a stripped down C200 and get DPAF to boot. mercer and deezid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ma Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hopefully this video will show dissuade you from buying a 5D4 if you need 4k. From my personal tests, the rolling shutter is so bad you can even see the lag when doing a closeup on someone's face even when you're not panning. They compare the rolling shutter to the 1DX2 which is far better in 4K when it comes to rolling shutter. IronFilm and kaylee 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Maze Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I can attest to the rolling shutter on 5div vs 1dxii. If rs is important to you then go for 1dxii or a7riii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael Ma said: From my personal tests, the rolling shutter is so bad you can even see the lag when doing a closeup on someone's face even when you're not panning good lawd! sounds AWFUL ill definitely pass on that – who wouldnt?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Harper Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Geez! Didn't know it was that bad. Seems like my only option for something compact and under $3K with DPAF from the Canon line is the 70D (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 8 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Most of the cheap C500's I have seen are PL mount, and by the time you buy a external recorder to do 4k well, you might as well buy a stripped down C200 and get DPAF to boot. Yeah is one of the annoying features of the Canons (vs say Sonys) is you're stuck with PL or EF, you can't switch between! 18 minutes ago, Ty Harper said: Geez! Didn't know it was that bad. Seems like my only option for something compact and under $3K with DPAF from the Canon line is the 70D (?) Or get a Canon C100 mk1 upgraded to DPAF Or just get a Sony a6500, the AF is decent enough. Or hire a 1st AC ;-) webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Ty Harper said: Geez! Didn't know it was that bad. Seems like my only option for something compact and under $3K with DPAF from the Canon line is the 70D (?) Well the 80D is the newer model and like Ironfilm said, the C100 is always a good option. Also, if you can get the 5D4 for a good price, the 1080p is pretty good. I posted this video in another thread, but this guy did a great job with the high bitrate 1080p on the 5D4 using James Miller’s C-Log profile... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Harper Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, mercer said: Well the 80D is the newer model and like Ironfilm said, the C100 is always a good option. Also, if you can get the 5D4 for a good price, the 1080p is pretty good. I posted this video in another thread, but this guy did a great job with the high bitrate 1080p on the 5D4 using James Miller’s C-Log profile... The rolling shutter on the 5D MK4 seems unacceptable, and prefer the dslr form factor to the C100/300 line. I'd pick the 70D over the 80D bcuz of the Magic Lantern hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Ty Harper said: The rolling shutter on the 5D MK4 seems unacceptable, and prefer the dslr form factor to the C100/300 line. I'd pick the 70D over the 80D bcuz of the Magic Lantern hack. Yeah, not great but better in 1080p. Then again, do you plan on doing a lot of back and forth whip pans? They’re on the verge of cracking the 80D which has a faster buffer than the 70D and more AF points. Plus the original Canon firmware 1080p is better with a higher bitrate, all-i codec. Plus the revered Canon crop mode. Ty Harper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat33 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, mercer said: Well the 80D is the newer model and like Ironfilm said, the C100 is always a good option. Also, if you can get the 5D4 for a good price, the 1080p is pretty good. I posted this video in another thread, but this guy did a great job with the high bitrate 1080p on the 5D4 using James Miller’s C-Log profile... Ahh just like the good old days when all you needed was your Canon dSLR, a nice bright yellow jacket, some moody landscapes and way too much time on your hands with no kidlets to look after ? mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Harper Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 19 hours ago, Michael Ma said: Hopefully this video will show dissuade you from buying a 5D4 if you need 4k. From my personal tests, the rolling shutter is so bad you can even see the lag when doing a closeup on someone's face even when you're not panning. They compare the rolling shutter to the 1DX2 which is far better in 4K when it comes to rolling shutter. So you're saying the rs shows up, even when you're doing static closeups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I took 1DC last December for $4700 in great condition. That's my camera for a lo-o-ong time, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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