IronFilm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: Don't forget about the highlight roll off man...in my opinion it's more valuable than the low light. Although at T4-5.6 that will be big for you as well. Exactly, that extra dynamic range being put into the highlight roll off is what gives the Arri Alexas their famous magic mojo 29 minutes ago, JordanWright said: Kai at CVP is claiming no increase in DR - however it wasn't a great test he did Well Kai is an entertainer/presenter, not a real hard core camera nerdy geek! And he is focused on stills, not cinema. So always take an inch pinch of salt any time he talks about a non-stills subject matter. sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I did it As soon as I see that it's shipped I'll sell my GH5. MurtlandPhoto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: From what I understand the omission of IBIS was necessary for the inclusion of Dual ISO I wonder what exactly is the technical conflict between those two which means they can't be included together at once? And will they be in the future, is this a hurdle that can be overcome on a future camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: Lol, if I do I won't outsource grading. Luke, people are out of likes for today. They have been throwing around with it today because of the GH5Ss´ launch day today! So maybe come back a bit later Awesome footage despite not being graded by you. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Does the Multi Aspect Sensor in the GH5s have a less than 2x crop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, IronFilm said: I wonder what exactly is the technical conflict between those two which means they can't be included together at once? And will they be in the future, is this a hurdle that can be overcome on a future camera? I think it's the juice needed to give each photosite 2x native ISOs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, JordanWright said: Does the Multi Aspect Sensor in the GH5s have a less than 2x crop? It has x1.8-ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sean Robinson explains all in his interview with Hugh Brownstone of Three Blind Men & an Elephant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 40 minutes ago, jonpais said: Sean Robinson is saying they conservatively estimate a 1-1/2 stop increase in low light performance over the GH5. That's what Kai said too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 33 minutes ago, jonpais said: Sean Robinson explains all in his interview with Hugh Brownstone of Three Blind Men & an Elephant. What´s up with Matt Frazier? I loved that guy. Neumann Films and Cas1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Good question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 He's a part of this launch for sure, no doubt you will see something from him today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, jonpais said: Sean Robinson is saying they conservatively estimate a 1-1/2 stop increase in low light performance over the GH5. That is, add a f/1.2 aperture coupled to any proper adapter and you'll basically have an equivalent low light performance similar to the most setups over there: i guess the point might be more addressed to AF range @ low light as for instance. Or as Luke said, the camera sensor behavior on highlights roll off. More than anything else. Probably a better cinema camera by then. Just my 2 cents though (E :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 @Neumann Filmsare you allowed to release any of the raw clips from your short film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seku Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 mh.... i would love to compare a gh5s clip with the improved highlight rolloff to @Sage's ghalex LUT. also a shadow region comparison would be nice Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: He's a part of this launch for sure, no doubt you will see something from him today That is great to know! Thanks for sharing info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Not releasing any clips was a point of contention this time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Really enjoyed your short @Neumann Films, loved the robot and the retro style intro. A lot of the shots certainly demonstrated improved highlight roll off and the “motion cadence” felt a little more film like. Maybe it was the aesthetic through that lens you were using. The glass does have some effect to the look of motion, I feel. I’m with you on the grading, especially the shots with the scientist guy. Onto the camera itself - many of us are annoyed st the lack of IBIS, but Panasonic have created a mini cinema machine that costs very little. Amazing really. Will I get it? I’m not sure, I don’t think I need it. I would miss IBIS hugely, and it is definitely a sticking point to lose one of the GH5’s defining features. Orangenz and Neumann Films 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Oliver Daniel said: Will I get it? I’m not sure, I don’t think I need it. I would miss IBIS hugely, and it is definitely a sticking point to lose one of the GH5’s defining features. Why not have both? For $4300 you can have 2 cameras, each with a different set of strengths. @Neumann Films, what is the top anamorphic resolution for this camera. That part of it was really throwing me off with the screen grabs you posted. Does this new cam match the anamorphic res of the GH5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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