Oliver Daniel Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: What else do you notice about it, what jumps out? The forehead is most in focus, which means, erm..... ....the tonal shifts seem deeper and smoother than regular GH5, but who knows, that could just be better grading. Dual ISO seems the most likely, with RAW a big stretch but fun to consider! I do think it’s a new camera AND a firmware upgrade, with the “new” camera probably receiving something a little extra, like the GH4R did. Ishak Sahertian and mercer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 03/12/2017 at 8:11 AM, Neumann Films said: Just had another look at this image, and noticed a couple of preposterous things here too.... 1. What’s with that flight of stairs? They have to be some of the weirdest stairs ever. They look like they’re curved and bent. Plus they look very thin in the way they’re built. Are they fake? (not sure why this is relevant, but just look at them. Closely. Either that or the perspective has created the crappiest stairs ever built.) 2. The feature of red in the photo. The red on the brake lights. The red on Griffon’s shoelaces. The red on the stairs railing. Cryptic clue to the GH5S’s new red kinks? Could of easily been photoshopped to be that way. 3. Erm..... Luke’s face is happy because he’s holding a new GH5 and he likes it. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It's greenscreened, they're actually not on set together. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 #1 That flight of stairs was weird. Goes up to a heli pad so maybe the fact that they have to stick close to a circular structure whilst not taking up room for parking was factored in the design? #2 Lol, now you're reaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Panasonic bought Red, heard it here first, thanks for the info Luke. Cinegain and IronFilm 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 For me. on a calibrated display, too much red/magenta, like that Alexa LUT thingy... Shrug, a lot of people seem to like that look. On further review, it isn't even close to the Alexa LUT, your photo is more orange than red, nevermind... 3 hours ago, Neumann Films said: What else do you notice about it, what jumps out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, mercer said: Because Luke said it was “daylight all around,” so since the white on the t-shirt and the white on the wall are different tones, but evenly exposed, I am guessing the subject is lit from a couple different windows and the new camera/firmware will have some sort of Dual ISO... Does dual ISO have something to do with color temp/WB? I thought it was an exposure thing. 5 hours ago, Neumann Films said: Someone asked what "1.tif" was about and I said I tried to upload a tif file but it wouldn't go through, no hidden meaning! Ok Luke. Here's the thing. If I were trying to upload an image and it wouldn't let me, I would either... Think to myself, "Oh well. It wasn't really that important." Then I'd go on about my day.... OR Think to myself, "Oh wait. It doesn't accept tif files." Then I'd convert it to jpeg. And post it. What I would never do is realize that it didn't accept tif files, and then post that it doesn't accept tif files -- knowing full well that I could simply convert to jpeg. The fact that you realized the forum didn't accept tifs and randomly posted that fact doesn't make any sense. I know you did eventually convert to jpeg and post, but the first series of actions just doesn't add up, especially when you say there is "no hidden meaning!" Come on man. You're killing us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 47 minutes ago, buggz said: For me. on a calibrated display, too much red/magenta, like that Alexa LUT thingy... Shrug, a lot of people seem to like that look. On further review, it isn't even close to the Alexa LUT, your photo is more orange than red, nevermind... I mean, I added the Alexa LUT on a laptop so that could be it I guess I could have been more specific, what OTHER than the grading do you notice. I'm not spending any time grading this material as it's being done by a post house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, buggz said: For me. on a calibrated display, too much red/magenta, like that Alexa LUT thingy... Shrug, a lot of people seem to like that look. To each his own, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Jonesy Jones said: Does dual ISO have something to do with color temp/WB? I thought it was an exposure thing. Ok Luke. Here's the thing. If I were trying to upload an image and it wouldn't let me, I would either... Think to myself, "Oh well. It wasn't really that important." Then I'd go on about my day.... OR Think to myself, "Oh wait. It doesn't accept tif files." Then I'd convert it to jpeg. And post it. What I would never do is realize that it didn't accept tif files, and then post that it doesn't accept tif files -- knowing full well that I could simply convert to jpeg. The fact that you realized the forum didn't accept tifs and randomly posted that fact doesn't make any sense. I know you did eventually convert to jpeg and post, but the first series of actions just doesn't add up, especially when you say there is "no hidden meaning!" Come on man. You're killing us. With 100% honesty, I only mentioned the .tif thing because someone asked. I tried to upload this same image as a .tif, it looked like it worked and I hit "post" but realized it just attached the file. So, sense I can't delete my post, I just changed it to say something random and deleted the image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2.666666 aspect ratio, FF anamorphic, though, I believe this has already been said... I really HATE the merged reply thingy. Sorry, this was not meant as "a slam". I even bought the daylight LUT. 18 minutes ago, Sage said: To each his own, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, buggz said: 2.666666 aspect ratio, FF anamorphic, though, I believe this has already been said... Sorry, this was not meant as "a slam". I even bought the daylight LUT. No, the Alexa LUT does this to un corrected GH5 footage plus Zeiss lenses are known for shifting this way as well. I guess to me there is one clue to look at here to get an idea. Or should I say, two clues. Off topic, but this lens makes all other lenses seem inferior. It is heads and shoulders above all other lenses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slonick81 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Neumann Films said: What else do you notice about it, what jumps out? What ISO it was shot at? Was it pushed up in post? I have a feeling of some delicate noise reduction in post looking at this screengrab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, buggz said: I even bought the daylight LUT. Indeed, you're a valued customer. You have a very recognizable email : ) The variance between the conversion and the Alexa is *very small; and it will only get smaller.. ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 This is the stock Adobe Alexa LUT btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I give, all I can see, besides the aspect ratio, and the grade, is the thin, very nice DOF bokeh, and probably at close focus too. 23 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: I guess to me there is one clue to look at here to get an idea. Or should I say, two clues. Off topic, but this lens makes all other lenses seem inferior. It is heads and shoulders above all other lenses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 50 minutes ago, Jonesy Jones said: Does dual ISO have something to do with color temp/WB? I thought it was an exposure thing. No I don’t think it does... what I was trying to say was that since Luke said it was all daylight and the subject seemed to be lit from the front... the darker white wall could be the result of a shadow or less light but since that seems evenly exposed I thought Dual ISO... I’m sure I’m off base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Sorry, I meant Daylight temp, there is an Aputure 120d as a key and then natural window light coming from the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: This is the stock Adobe Alexa LUT btw. Ah, the 709 for LogC - I didn't remember seeing your email, now it makes sense. Take a look at this. Neumann Films 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sage said: Ah, the 709 for LogC - I didn't remember seeing your email, now it makes sense. Take a look at this. I saw that the other day, looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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