jonpais Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, TwoScoops said: Good catch! I was pretty certain it was this sensor tbh, esp with the dual iso. We'll see soon enough I guess. Well, I think I was mistaken after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'm thinking about renting this camera one weekend. It's $280 per weekend around here. EDIT: Nevermind it's the Terra 6K. Is it basically the same with larger resolution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, AaronChicago said: I'm thinking about renting this camera one weekend. It's $280 per weekend around here. EDIT: Nevermind it's the Terra 6K. Is it basically the same with larger resolution? Different sensor design, has quite a few pros/cons vs Terra 4K. (arguably the Terra 6K is "better", but the Terra 4K is newer and I know people who owned a Terra 6K then sold it once the Terra 4K arrived) Terra 6K is same sensor as in the KineMAX 6K, while Terra 4K is a totally new sensor for Kinefinity (probably the same one as in the GH5S?). AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 hours ago, IronFilm said: Different sensor design, has quite a few pros/cons vs Terra 4K. (arguably the Terra 6K is "better", but the Terra 4K is newer and I know people who owned a Terra 6K then sold it once the Terra 4K arrived) Terra 6K is same sensor as in the KineMAX 6K, while Terra 4K is a totally new sensor for Kinefinity (probably the same one as in the GH5S?). The Terra 4K is looking pretty overpriced compared to the new 4k BMPCC using the same sensor me thinks. But then so is everything else now to me. mkabi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Could be. If true, we should see a drop in sales of all sub $10,000 cinema cameras, or at the very least, drastic price reductions and fire sales. I can already see rental houses closing their doors. I also thought the abundance of fast, optically superior f/1.2 - f/1.4 primes would put Metabones out of business, but surprisingly, it hasn’t happened yet. The same prinicipal applies: compact form factor, outstanding image quality, affordable pricing. I really like the image quality I’m seeing from the Kinefinity, and the pricing looks very reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, webrunner5 said: The Terra 4K is looking pretty overpriced compared to the new 4k BMPCC using the same sensor me thinks. But then so is everything else now to me. I have been pretty skeptical of Kinfinity as many here know. But from what I have seen after a hands on with both the TERRA is in a different league when compared to the new BMPCC 4K. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 hours ago, jonpais said: I also thought the abundance of fast, optically superior f/1.2 - f/1.4 primes would put Metabones out of business, but surprisingly, it hasn’t happened yet. People have an investment in their lens collection, and Metabones allows people to use that with a new camera without buying a whole new set of lenses. mkabi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 In case you didn't notice, I was showing that it isn't about to happen. Just as there are reasons why filmmakers will continue to use traditional cinema cameras rather than mirrorless cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Rolling shutter performance of a few cameras: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 A History of the Kinefinity company (google translate is your friend!): https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/kfL34lPKCA4ZO0f9VbBfWw Another article which is in English though, worth a read: http://kinecommunity.com/kinefinity-past-present-future/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Yeah that Mavo LF definitly peaks my interest. But priced over my budget :'( Ill buy one when they are 50% off used. Geoff boyle ==> Kinefinity Mavo: it fires up pretty quickly but some of the menus are very confusing, separate settings for EI and ISO?? It’s not ready for general consumption yet, they need to get their post workflow sorted. When they do it could be a very good camera. I would rate the camera at EI 800 with a highlight latitude of 4 stops, I’m not sure what the shadow latitude is because of post issues but it looks like it could be very good indeed. Note: I haven’t been able to do a full and good assessment of this camera or the Terra because of the post workflow issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Ill buy one when they are 50% off used. I think the only battle tested bodies Kinefinity has offered is the KineMINI, and that was years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Came across this footage by Sigurd Neby. 80% of this footage is Kinefinity Terra 4K, the other 20% is EVA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Yeah really want to see a pocket 4K vs terra 4K shootout comparison video. Not sure if the terra 4K is worht more then 5times the cost of a pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 In terms of pure image quality? Quite probably not. In terms of extra functionality/specs/workflow? Yeah, the Terra probably is indeed "worth it" for some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 https://***URL not allowed***/kinefinity-terra-4k-gets-new-firmware-to-record-4k-160fps-and-2k-320fps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, webrunner5 said: https://***URL not allowed***/kinefinity-terra-4k-gets-new-firmware-to-record-4k-160fps-and-2k-320fps/ Zcam E2 is getting 4K wide 160fps mode in next firmware as well . webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Shouldnt Kinefinity drive prices down now there is a much cheaper alternative for their mavo and mavo lf when the F6 and F8 hits the market in october. Its basicly 50% cheaper. So I guess a lot of users will get that instead, so if kinefinity wants to win customers over, now is a good time to do so, before the F6 and F8 hit the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/11/2019 at 9:19 PM, zerocool22 said: Shouldnt Kinefinity drive prices down now there is a much cheaper alternative for their mavo and mavo lf when the F6 and F8 hits the market in october. Its basicly 50% cheaper. I imagine RED/ARRI/Canon/Panasonic/Sony largely ignore Kinefinity :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, IronFilm said: I imagine RED/ARRI/Canon/Panasonic/Sony largely ignore Kinefinity :-/ Well yeah, big production companies will not change their camera inventory into an unknown brand what their clients dont even know about. Kinefinity is more aimed at freelancers/low budget filmmakers/hobbyists, so Z-cam could def hurt kinefinity(bigger companies will not care) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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