Jonesy Jones Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I can't believe anyone is considering whether or not to buy a camera with no official word on what it is. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, DBounce said: Does it matter if using a gimbal? I’m thinking it’s still a go... pending footage. IBIS makes a very noticeable difference when working with a single-handed gimbal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sony also announced a press conference for today - and even Sonyalpharumors knows what it is. If they release the A7SIII by surprise today too... IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Some more GH5S specs have been leaked: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nTmLu6vItjcJ:www.techradar.com/news/the-lumix-gh5s-is-panasonics-most-video-focused-camera-yet Does the new multi-aspect ratio sensor mean it will use a larger surface area than the GH5 while shooting video? No mentions about IBIS in the article. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, UncleBobsPhotography said: Some more GH5S specs have been leaked: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nTmLu6vItjcJ:www.techradar.com/news/the-lumix-gh5s-is-panasonics-most-video-focused-camera-yet Does the new multi-aspect ratio sensor mean it will use a larger surface area than the GH5 while shooting video? No mentions about IBIS in the article. Same old shit AF. Bravo Panasonic! No IBIS according to attached image. Truly disappointing. Wtf seriously.. biggest technology step back I have seen on a new camera for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 So - multi-aspect sensor, timecode, C4K 60p, pre-installed V-Log, an extra stop of low light... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, jonpais said: So - multi-aspect sensor, timecode, C4K 60p, pre-installed V-Log, an extra stop of low light... ? Must have missed where they specified 1 extra stop of low light? I think it will be more than that. I also will miss the IBIS. If this new sensor was so amazing to warrant skipping this feature, then it had better be on hell of a performer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, DBounce said: Must have missed where they specified 1 extra stop of low light? I think it will be more than that. They extend the ISO range by 1 stop, but that doesn't necessarily tell us anything about how much noise improvement there is. With bigger pixels, multi-aspect ratio (potentially larger sensor area) and dual native ISO, the difference could be substantial.he Without IBIS, the GH5s will not be relevant for me, but I guess it will be the cheapest way to get good quality Cinema 4k in 60p for those who need that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 true enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 So the new sensor is 10.2mp. So why call this a hybrid camera. Surely at this resolution this is really a dedicated video camera. Speaking for myself I cannot imagine taking this camera along if I wanted to also capture stills that I might print. This seems to be a cinema camera. Granted one that should be great in low light. Pending amazing footage and motion cadence I will buy one. But I wonder if the G9 should replace my GH5? Better stills, AF, size/weight. G9/GH5s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 No wonder why Casey tested it and dropped it for Canon. The guy couldn’t care less about C4K, but no better AF and losing IBIS ? I guess he laughed. Despite DPAF I would never use the 6D2 as he does though. Such a poor image quality. Even on YouTube 1st video he posted with the 6D, I thought something was super wrong and checked the YouTube video resolution because I thought I was 480p.... Anyway I am happy at least the GH5 and this one will push competition for the better thanks to features like 4K60p. Always good. Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Probably there will be a lot fo PR talking for the reasons to strip IBIS - heat, etc. Reality: to prevent the (not unreasonable) rage from the GH5 owners. They forgot to copy the Sony segmentation to the last step - all guns forward always, no matter what was lauched before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Correct. As I said somewhere else I am supper disappointed at companies segmenting and crippling bodies to protect another line. Canon is the worst with that. Sony the best and Panasonic was good, but here they clearly removed purposely a feature just to say look there is still a reason to buy a GH5... ridiculous way of doing business. But it works. And the reason it works is simple, you will see people here answering me that I am foolish and expect having everything in a camera, and that no company offers 4k60p for 2000$ bla-bla-bla. Yes sure with people praising company even doing that, it will never stop. Go to a Canon forum tell them how Canon cripple their DSLr to protect Cine line and see how they will jump at you like angry dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, wolf33d said: Correct. As I said somewhere else I am supper disappointed at companies segmenting and crippling bodies to protect another line. Canon is the worst with that. Sony the best and Panasonic was good, but here they clearly removed purposely a feature just to say look there is still a reason to buy a GH5... ridiculous way of doing business. Well let’s be honest, at 10.2mp if shooting stills, you would want a higher resolution anyway. This is a one trick pony, not a hybrid... regardless of the form factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 based on these unconfirmed specs, for me, its not worth the upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 52 minutes ago, UncleBobsPhotography said: Does the new multi-aspect ratio sensor mean it will use a larger surface area than the GH5 while shooting video? Yes, I guess it will be like the GH2 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I am disappointed for the lack of IBIS as well but I use a Starvis sensor on a machine vision camera at work and it gets really hot. We have to use a lot of heat sinks to get the noise low enough so I understand the need with the GH5s to be mounted on a huge heat sink instead of floating around. Marcio Kabke Pinheiro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonesx24 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, wolf33d said: This looks like PR from one of a million cheap Chinese companies. "in the History of Lumix is achieved" really? No way this could be real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, DBounce said: So the new sensor is 10.2mp. So why call this a hybrid camera. Surely at this resolution this is really a dedicated video camera. Speaking for myself I cannot imagine taking this camera along if I wanted to also capture stills that I might print. This seems to be a cinema camera. Granted one that should be great in low light. Pending amazing footage and motion cadence I will buy one. But I wonder if the G9 should replace my GH5? Better stills, AF, size/weight. G9/GH5s? That was my idea going into this. Basically makes the GH5 obsolete. No need for a hybrid when you can have one dedicated stills cam that shoots video rather well and to have a dedicated more cinema-like camera for shooting the way we used to do with the 5DmkII, T2i/550D, GH2, BMPCC etc. Emulating the approach of a cinema camera, but with a compact, relatively affordable consumer (easy to operate) camera. So... now I have the GH5 and G9, then I'll ditch the GH5 for the GH5S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted January 8, 2018 Super Members Share Posted January 8, 2018 10mp is more than enough for a stills camera even with large prints. The question is, how good does the internal 10bit look. DR is what the GH5 lacks. Can it be a non issue? If so its a winner. Ibis, schmibis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.