Jonesy Jones Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 ALERT: If you have not seen this film, GO TO NETFLIX AND WATCH IT NOW! Not only will the following contain spoilers, but it will COMPLETELY ruin the viewing experience. COMPLETELY. You may hate the movie, or love it, but if you do not watch it now blindly, you will not be able to do it later. DO NOT search for the movie on Google. I repeat. Do not look it up at all. Just go to Netflix at watch. Do NOT read the comments, or you will not have the proper viewing experience. I can't express it enough. ************************************ I'd like to start a discussion on this, but don't have time to add my thoughts at the moment. Will do so later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 OOOoooooo i kno what this issssss i cant wait to see it but i dont have netflix yeah, TOTALLY do what Jonesy said, IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THIS IS JUST WATCH IT. DONT GOOGLE IT Jonesy Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 I realize this is a gear head forum. Actual filmmaking threads are not popular. They should be. This is what it's all about. But alas. There is so much interesting to me about the film. Ima total sucker for treasure movies. Docs or narrative, doesn't matter. Most people hate the fact that the film turns out to be completely fake. I'm not sure why. Were they not entertained for the 82 minutes they knew the film would be? I loved it. It totally got me. The whole time I kept thinking... "Oh man, this is unbelievable." lol... And it just got more unbelievable as the film went on. And then the Mickey Mouse at the end. What a gag. Awesome! What's interesting to me is that here we have an artist who made a film to generate interest in his art. Could the opposite work for a filmmaker? I guess it could be argued that Lucas already did this. He made a movie, and then sold figurines of the characters. The bottomline for me is that, as filmmakers, making a movie is not enough. There must be something else. A gag. A movement. Rally. Cause. Message. Trick. By all means, focus on making movies. But if you really want to be successful and sustainable, there has to be something else, and it's gotta be out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I watched the entirety of it and only after JJ said to watch it.... And, to be honest, I was highly doubtful in the beginning especially when the artist said something along the lines of hoping/believing what's there less than what could be there.... Made me think that the artist planted the whole thing... It was a back and forth battle thinking that it's real or not real.... "How can there be coral on the statue if it's fake?".. "How can that huge statue be transported on ship?" I figured some of the dates being presented were fake.... To be honest, I totally missed the Mickey statue... Don't watch this if you have kids running around. Only till you guys told me that I had to go back and rewatch it. I found it weird that there was a statue of a rat at the end... But never put 2 and 2 together... Again don't watch it with kids running around. In my opinion, they could have taken this another route... A pirate ship stole most of the items... Some items really show up on eBay. After the credits- Easter egg that it was faked. Jonesy Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxotics Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Jonesy Jones said: There is so much interesting to me about the film. Ima total sucker for treasure movies. Docs or narrative, doesn't matter. I'm a total sucker for treasure movies too, but not for fakery. I only watched ten minutes. That was all I could take, sorry. A similar movie that did work for me is "What We Do In The Shadows". It too, is shot like a documentary, but it is written for laughs and I cared immediately about the characters. In a real documentary, the camera doesn't move around to give a sense of movement, as it does in TFTW, it moves around because it must keep up with the subject in the frame. Right away, I knew it was a fake documentary (camera movements too studied) and I found that obnoxious; again, fakery for the sake of looking truthful instead of lying to make a genuine point. So from the start, I felt like I was being manipulated. It was just too obvious. The people interviewed in the film (real, characters?) sounded idiotic, whoever they were. Every frame shouted "look at a great filmmaker I am". What is art? Well, we could talk about that all day. What is fakery? That film. It's tough for me, being alone, not being part of the crowd. The older I get, the less tolerant I am to lying, artistically, though I am more open to different kinds of art! On the bright side, that film strengthens everything I hold important. It makes me remember to talk up the art that don't get enough recognition. It makes me appreciate other documentaries like "The Artist Is Present", where the artist recognizes that they straddle the line between political nonsense and having something to say. Sorry for the negative review @Jonesy Jones But thanks for the suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 i am NOT going to post on this until ive seen the film and there are more comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Kotlos Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I saw the movie a few weeks ago but only now read about it because of this thread. I can say that this is an interesting genre but the problem is that it only works if you haven't read about it. So while it worked for me before, had I seen it now I would be much more dismissive. Jonesy Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 A have a couple of deadlines for the next dozen days but I will try to watch after that. I guess it is a mockumentary? I like those (Spinal Tap anyone?!). @maxotics Taika Waititi and Jemain Clement are two of the most talented men of our (I am a bit younger though) generation. I am following them for years and years. They have reached "mainstream" status now, something I could never imagine, especially for Taika, they have reached Hollywood top but still they are offering an indie eye on their projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxotics Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kisaha said: Taika Waititi and Jemain Clement are two of the most talented men of our (I am a bit younger though) generation That's the thrill of movie-making, talent saves no one from flop-dom! Indeed, when one looks at all that can go wrong, it's a miracle good films ever get made. I didn't mean to malign them in the least! They failed for me, that takes nothing away from anyone else, I hope! Well, I know! Hollywood does better with films I don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I watched it on Jonesy Jones recommendation without knowing it was fake. I was thinking there was going to be a meaningful revelation at by the end of it, but for me there wasn't. Even though I took it a face value, I keep saying to myself, this looks like it is staged and I keep expecting some reality tv type of moments where there is the melt down, freakout, rage quit, sellout, the betrayal, revelation or all of the above. So it didn't get there for me. Also, the color grading of teal and orange got tiresome especially the teal tinted ocean. That said, just completing something of the scale was a great accomplishment, through there was not enough soul swapping/selling for my tasted in drama whether it is real or fake or something in-between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 @maxotics The two aforementioned Kiwis (sorry @IronFilm !) did the "What we do in the shadows" film. Taika directed tha last Thor:Ragnarok, which is watchable (most of those comic films are really terrible) and has some sense of humor. This is a huge step from someone that became known from this film http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0494222/?ref_=m_nmfmd_dr_12 Very interesting and talented duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 6:52 PM, kaylee said: This is actually cool art, if I was a billionaire.... I would want that in my living room :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 2:43 PM, maxotics said: A similar movie that did work for me is "What We Do In The Shadows". It too, is shot like a documentary, but it is written for laughs and I cared immediately about the characters. A kiwi movie too! :-D I know a few people who worked on it. A recognise lots of scenes from the streets of Wellington as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxotics Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 16 hours ago, Kisaha said: The two aforementioned Kiwis (sorry @IronFilm !) did the "What we do in the shadows" film Goes to show you how much I follow who-does-what anymore. "What We Do" blew me away. It's difficult to do a 2-minute video gag. 90 minutes? One of the best films I've seen in the past ten years. I watched it twice with my kids. One of them has probably watched it three times. Kisaha and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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