Matthew Hartman Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 So in my consideration and anticipation of getting the Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k I'm pitching to this community on glass reccomendations. My budget is $1,000 max, so please keep that in mind when making reccomendations. I don't mind used/refurbished as long as in good/working condition. Some other criteria: 1.) Fast Zoom, with AF and decent range, obviously on the EF mount system. Max constant acceptable apeture would be f2.8. (Knowing the low light limitations of the camera) 2.) Not looking for Cine glass, as this would get rented specifically for budgeted shoots. Most likely Cooke Mini or Ziess primes on PL. Even though I prefer primes, I want to go zoom (constant aperture) because for personal projects and practice I just want to use one or two lens'. I have a Edelkrone follow focus with a gear ring, so photography glass is fine. Right now I've got my eye on the Sigma Art 1.8 16-35mm. Good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said: Right now I've got my eye on the Sigma Art 1.8 16-35mm. Good? You mean the 18-35mm This together with the Sigma 50-100mm f1.8 and the Tokina 11-20mm f2.8 will give you the "Holy Trinity" of still zooms for APS-C / S35 Do it! Another option is one of those 16/17/18mm to 50mm f2.8 third party zooms which you can get for cheap secondhand for a few hundred dollars. Or maybe even the classic 24-70mm f2.8 from a third party manufacturer. As while I love my 18-35mm, there are times I don't need the f1.8 as f2.8 is still plenty fast but I really appreciate that extra reach over 35mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, IronFilm said: As while I love my 18-35mm, there are times I don't need the f1.8 as f2.8 is still plenty fast but I really appreciate that extra reach over 35mm Interesting point there. That would certainly bring down the price too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 is a nice lens... I believe it is used on the Narcos show. But don’t underestimate a fast lens with these cameras. These images will get noisy fast, so it really helps to have that fast lens to keep your ISO levels low. With that being said, I would recommend a good two lens setup. A zoom lens like the aforementioned 18-35mm or Canon 17-55mm which would be your walk around go to lens but then get one fast Prime in your favorite focal length for lower light, shallow depth, and your money shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 39 minutes ago, mercer said: The Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 is a nice lens... I believe it is used on the Narcos show. But don’t underestimate a fast lens with these cameras. These images will get noisy fast, so it really helps to have that fast lens to keep your ISO levels low. With that being said, I would recommend a good two lens setup. A zoom lens like the aforementioned 18-35mm or Canon 17-55mm which would be your walk around go to lens but then get one fast Prime in your favorite focal length for lower light, shallow depth, and your money shots. You're talking about this guy? https://www.adorama.com/us 955478.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAqbvTBRAPEiwANEkyCHwMN8x9dl59ZW00vbwS7qhSLS9OMIXsKP0Oykti9_ZSDUFQJj--yRoCWhAQAvD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Matthew Hartman said: You're talking about this guy? https://www.adorama.com/us 955478.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAqbvTBRAPEiwANEkyCHwMN8x9dl59ZW00vbwS7qhSLS9OMIXsKP0Oykti9_ZSDUFQJj--yRoCWhAQAvD_BwE Yup, that’s the one. Of course you can probably do a little better on eBay, if you have some patience. And here’s a lowlight video with the Canon lens on the Ursa... And here’s some beautiful 2K ProRes shot with that Canon lens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Honestly, you can’t go wrong with a lot of the Canon lenses... even the slower “L” zoom lenses are amazing. I shot these with the 5D Mark iii and ML Raw using the 24-70mm f/4 lens... Of course with the smaller, Super 35mm sensor of the Ursa, the faster zooms will be better. Adept and JordanWright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 Most impressive. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 20 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said: Interesting point there. That would certainly bring down the price too. If you do buy a mid range f2.8 zoom and don't get the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8, then don't rob yourself completely of a super lowlight fast option! Get one or two primes on the cheap to help yourself out in a pinch. 50mm f1.8 lenses are always dirt dirt cheap, so get that at least. Although a fast 35mm or 24mm is likely more useful in my opinion if you only have one. Anyone can have this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1158443-REG/yongnuo_yn35mm_f2_yn_35mm_f_2_lens.html Better than nothing in an emergency. Or other options: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rokinon-Samyang-Canon-EF-24mm-f-1-4-Aspherical-ED-UMC-Lens-For-Canon/282813284219 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-Sigma-AF-24mm-f1-8-EX-DG-Macro-Lens-24-1-8-Canon-EF/272788802326 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 11 hours ago, IronFilm said: If you do buy a mid range f2.8 zoom and don't get the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8, then don't rob yourself completely of a super lowlight fast option! Get one or two primes on the cheap to help yourself out in a pinch. 50mm f1.8 lenses are always dirt dirt cheap, so get that at least. Although a fast 35mm or 24mm is likely more useful in my opinion if you only have one. Anyone can have this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1158443-REG/yongnuo_yn35mm_f2_yn_35mm_f_2_lens.html Better than nothing in an emergency. Or other options: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rokinon-Samyang-Canon-EF-24mm-f-1-4-Aspherical-ED-UMC-Lens-For-Canon/282813284219 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-Sigma-AF-24mm-f1-8-EX-DG-Macro-Lens-24-1-8-Canon-EF/272788802326 I'm definitely leaning towards the Sigma 18-35 1.8 art. I'm seeing online that even a couple stops can make a pretty meaningful difference in terms of this camera and low light. I know myself too well bro. I'm fucking OCD when it comes to IQ. If there's noise that Neat Video can't take care of at a reasonable exposure I'm going to obsess in the most unhealthiest of ways. I'm a lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I assume of course you are remember to distinguish between the 4K and 4.6K when looking at reviews/opinions online? As the 4K sensor indeed crazy bad in lowlight, as you're basically stuck with just one ISO 11 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said: I know myself too well bro. I'm fucking OCD when it comes to IQ. If there's noise that Neat Video can't take care of at a reasonable exposure I'm going to obsess in the most unhealthiest of ways. I'm a lunatic. Have you considered the 12 Step Program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 hours ago, IronFilm said: I assume of course you are remember to distinguish between the 4K and 4.6K when looking at reviews/opinions online? As the 4K sensor indeed crazy bad in lowlight, as you're basically stuck with just one ISO Have you considered the 12 Step Program? No, but I'm definitely considering 15 Stops of dynamic range. ? IronFilm and vaga 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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