DBounce Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 From what I’ve seen the 65mm should be a good fit. Although, I have not yet seen the 40mm or 100mm. They will be at NAB this week... as will I. If possible I will see if I can get some footage with them on the GH5S. I’m very curious to learn if my suspicions are correct that these lenses will be a perfect match with the ‘S’. 53 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: Wow a Atlas Orion 65mm, you must have won the Lotto LoL. I would think a 65mm would be a bit too long even using a Speed Booster with the crop factor? Yeah if I had the money I would buy one in a heartbeat. Closest thing to a Cine camera we can afford. I can't believe how many people here on a Video site are thinking of buying a Fuji X-H1 over a GH5s! Your getting the hang of it no doubt. Nice looking LuT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, DBounce said: From what I’ve seen the 65mm should be a good fit. Although, I have not yet seen the 40mm or 100mm. They will be at NAB this week... as will I. If possible I will see if I can get some footage with them on the GH5S. I’m very curious to learn if my suspicions are correct that these lenses will be a perfect match with the ‘S’. I think the 40mm might be the way to go for me. But everyone has different needs. Hell buy all 3 of them, Gulp!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, webrunner5 said: I think the 40mm might be the way to go for me. But everyone has different needs. Hell buy a 3 of them, Gulp!! That will come down to what I learn at NAB. Honestly, with the GH5S you get the best of both worlds... Without a SpeedBooster your 65mm is 117mm and with the SB XL you are closer to 74.6mm. So you are getting two focal lengths for the price of one (plus SB). It makes sense to get this lens in EF and then adapt to M43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Will the 65mm see twice as much horizontally as a spherical lens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, jonpais said: Will the 65mm see twice as much horizontally as a spherical lens? My understanding is that a wider view was the original purpose for anamorphic lenses. They first were used in tanks to give a wider view of the battle field. The Orion Series have a 2x stretch factor. So in the case of the 2x lenses they should see twice as much. From the footage I have seen from the 65mm it will be plenty wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Oh they are 2x, wow that is pretty crazy. I am used to 1.33. Hmm that does change everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrym Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I'm still debating wether i should buy GH5 or GH5s. One thing that i've noticed when grading sample files (only applying official varicam LUT for instance on Emmanuel Pampuri's footage) is that some "blocks" of colors appears, especially on skin tones (even in 10 bits footage, see capture) without smooth colors transitions. This is also shown in those 2 youtube videos: - have you noticed these artifacts too ? - is it still present in 400 mbps files ? - Has GH5s improved on this ? - Is it my imagination ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Maze Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 My last gh5s video is live. A "comprehensive review" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, wildrym said: I'm still debating... Just some more one-sort-of-professional voices about concerned debating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, wildrym said: I'm still debating wether i should buy GH5 or GH5s. One thing that i've noticed when grading sample files (only applying official varicam LUT for instance on Emmanuel Pampuri's footage) is that some "blocks" of colors appears, especially on skin tones (even in 10 bits footage, see capture) without smooth colors transitions. This is also shown in those 2 youtube videos: - have you noticed these artifacts too ? - is it still present in 400 mbps files ? - Has GH5s improved on this ? - Is it my imagination ? Thanks The GH5 uses an abbreviated version of VLog when compared to the Varicam. So that might cause issues. I never really noticed any issues with the GH5 when grading. The codec holds up pretty well. The main difference from my POV when compared to the GH5S is something a bit more subtle but nonetheless substantial when comparing the overall image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The Vlogger wants to use VLog primarily for 8bit footage. That's a bad idea. The profile should only be used for 10bit video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrym Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Thanks for your answers. Yes in 8 bit those "splotches" are more obvious, but i can see them in 10 bit footage too (shown in the frame from Pampuri's footage in my post, between her eyes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 As simple as: avoid VLog on GH series. HLG is your friend, no reason to complain :-) Lux Shots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lux Shots Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Emanuel said: As simple as: avoid VLog on GH series. HLG is your friend, no reason to complain :-) I must confess, that HLG really is something to behold. I have a small sample clip rendering right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lux Shots Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 12 hours ago, webrunner5 said: ... I can't believe how many people here on a Video site are thinking of buying a Fuji X-H1 over a GH5s! Yeah, this is something I quite don't understand. The m43 Pocket Cinema camera is born with Varicam lineage and in this forum it's crickets! But to even contemplate the X-H1 without having a serious investment in Fuji glass is really baffling to me. And I've really tried to get the fascination with it, oh I've really tried. I've watched the videos explain how you have to fumble through the menus, how the camera maxes out at 20-30 min of footage (or less sans battery grip) and the battery life is close to last generation Sony's. The only thing to rave about is the color. And with a few hours in Lumetri, DaVinci or Final Cut we could dial in something damn close for whatever cam we have. So it must be nostalgia. A reminder of simpler times, when the smell of developing fluid awakened the senses in anticipation of the images to come. I just can't give it a pass, and the only thing that can make the X-H1 anymore mediocre than it already is, is the GH5S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Out of likes for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lux Shots said: Yeah, this is something I quite don't understand. The m43 Pocket Cinema camera is born with Varicam lineage and in this forum it's crickets! But to even contemplate the X-H1 without having a serious investment in Fuji glass is really baffling to me. And I've really tried to get the fascination with it, oh I've really tried. I've watched the videos explain how you have to fumble through the menus, how the camera maxes out at 20-30 min of footage (or less sans battery grip) and the battery life is close to last generation Sony's. The only thing to rave about is the color. And with a few hours in Lumetri, DaVinci or Final Cut we could dial in something damn close for whatever cam we have. So it must be nostalgia. A reminder of simpler times, when the smell of developing fluid awakened the senses in anticipation of the images to come. I just can't give it a pass, and the only thing that can make the X-H1 anymore mediocre than it already is, is the GH5S. It is the magic to see something to immediately pop up from vacuum, I guess : D Fuji's mojo. SOOC is a dream to come true there. GH5S is a way further another animal... The best bang for the buck, not exactly the synonymous for the X-H1 top hat ;-) Lux Shots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I’m not impressed at all by the Eterna footage that’s been uploaded till now. SOOC will always pale compared to a graded image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Depends on the shooter skills, of course. No free soup : ) Grading is part of the filmmaking process, so no surprise there. It is no SOOC though :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Depends on the shooter skills, of course. No free soup : ) Grading is part of the filmmaking process, so no surprise there. It is no SOOC though :-) You’ve shot dozens of films yourself - any of them ever bypass a colorist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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