DBounce Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 4:14 PM, jonpais said: What computer do you edit on? Expand Mostly I edit on a MacBook Pro... 2017 model. I switch sometime ago to FCPX as it seems much faster than PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 4:42 PM, DBounce said: Mostly I edit on a MacBook Pro... 2017 model. I switch sometime ago to FCPX as it seems much faster than PP. Expand Just asking because you probably won’t be able to use an Atomos as a grading monitor in spite of what mystery box writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 5:16 PM, jonpais said: Just asking because you probably won’t be able to use an Atomos as a grading monitor in spite of what mystery box writes. Expand I was thinking of using it as a field monitor and recorder. It is designed to display and record HDR upto DCI 60p. So I would imagine it would be ok for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Yes, fine for that. Just don’t plan on using it as a grading monitor. It won’t work with your MacBook Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 4:28 PM, DBounce said: compares the VLog-L mode to HLG mode (1.43). It seems that even after grading the HLG mode renders a better image, with correctly exposed whites, while maintaining details in the shadows. The whole image just looks better. So is HLG using the dual ISOs differently? Expand HLG uses more of the tonal range of the H264 container and also has more accurate tonal density than VlogL. Unless using slowmo (cine-D) I use HLG. jonpais 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Question for all of you that have been using HLG. What is the input color space and output color space? When I'm looking at an HLG file in Resolve it seem's pretty decent while working in HLG color timeline, but there's no option for HLG output. Rec2020, Rec2100 looks bad. The colors are all shifted. Output to Rec709 looks good but I'm not seeing any more DR on that output than VLogL. Update: I found that using Rec2100 as the input and output is key. It's hard to see any difference on my Rec709 monitor but I'm getting a decklink hooked up to view HDR on the Atomos Inferno. Georgios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 7:55 PM, AaronChicago said: Question for all of you that have been using HLG. What is the input color space and output color space? When I'm looking at an HLG file in Resolve it seem's pretty decent while working in HLG color timeline, but there's no option for HLG output. Rec2020, Rec2100 looks bad. The colors are all shifted. Output to Rec709 looks good but I'm not seeing any more DR on that output than VLogL. Update: I found that using Rec2100 as the input and output is key. It's hard to see any difference on my Rec709 monitor but I'm getting a decklink hooked up to view HDR on the Atomos Inferno. Expand Good luck with the DeckLink. Let us know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I got the Decklink and hooked up the Inferno. Holy shit there's a night and day difference in NITs and shadow/highlight detail. I'm a little bit worried about using the HDR monitor as a reference until I start delivering in HDR. jonpais, Adept and Georgios 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 12:45 PM, AaronChicago said: I got the Decklink and hooked up the Inferno. Holy shit there's a night and day difference in NITs and shadow/highlight detail. I'm a little bit worried about using the HDR monitor as a reference until I start delivering in HDR. Expand I just heard back from Atomos this afternoon. The HDMI port on the UltraStudio Mini Monitor won’t work with the Ninja Inferno, but apparently it will with the SDI connectors on the Shogun. The relatively inexpensive AJA T-TAP should also work, but only with Premiere and Final Cut - not Resolve. The high end 4K i/o devices should work as well, but cost thousands of dollars, and we don’t need the 4K or HDMI metadata to grade with the Inferno. Are you using the Shogun or the Ninja? And which DeckLink are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 @jonpais I'm using the Shogun Inferno. Decklink Mini 4k. Right now I have HDMI running from the Decklink to the monitor. jonpais 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 That is a crazy difference between the two! Interesting outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @AaronChicago What monitor are you using? How many nits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Dell 27" 4K IPS, I believe it's 350 nits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Oh, the Decklink thingy looks cool, I gotta read more how this works. It's a capture card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 @buggz It’s currently one of pthe least expensive ways to get a clean HDMI signal out of a PC to a Shogun. If you’re on a Mac, you’ll need a Thunderbolt enclosure which will double the cost and the chassis is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpi Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 hello everyone I bought brand new gh5s but I can't find HLG on my color profile menu.... I can see only VLog L and other profiles. How can I install HLG on my Panasonic GH5s??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 11/9/2018 at 9:32 AM, Simpi said: hello everyone I bought brand new gh5s but I can't find HLG on my color profile menu.... I can see only VLog L and other profiles. How can I install HLG on my Panasonic GH5s??? Expand Press function button near info button(small button) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxAdriano Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Hey, do you like more HLG or Cinelike D? I have to shoot in very strong light. Thank you for some info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 3:11 PM, FoxAdriano said: Hey, do you like more HLG or Cinelike D? I have to shoot in very strong light. Thank you for some info. Expand HLG definitely has the most dynamic range on the GH5. Cinelike D isn't far behind and is perhaps easier to color though I never liked cinelike D colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackProS Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Hi guys. I am a beginner and would like to get rid of some confusion. Which are the IRE level on waveform to correctly expose HLG on GH5s using a color chart? -middle grey card -90% white card -caucasian skin tone If the scene is correctly exposed and WB is adjusted which are the next steps in post? This is what I think: 1) color transform from BT2100/2020 to Rec709 2) primary color correction 3) color grading Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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