anonim Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 1:23 PM, anax276 said: The biggest argument (apart from some specialised video features of the GH5) for me in favour of M4/3 versus FF is the size of the lenses. I don‘t like carrying around heavy stuff und found M4/3 to be a good compromise... But maybe the times have changed? Are Sony lenses comparable in size and weight with the equivalent m4/3 lenses? Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 1:23 PM, anax276 said: The biggest argument (apart from some specialised video features of the GH5) for me in favour of M4/3 versus FF is the size of the lenses. I don‘t like carrying around heavy stuff und found M4/3 to be a good compromise... But maybe the times have changed? Are Sony lenses comparable in size and weight with the equivalent m4/3 lenses? Expand Well of course the whole equivalence argument tends to mean different things to different people. But I found that I was increasingly looking for bigger and more expensive lenses with M43 than what I considered their equivalent with FF.... http://camerasize.com/compact/#579.639,482.683,ha,t jonpais 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I want that Olympus! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasiliskFilm Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 1:23 PM, anax276 said: Are Sony lenses comparable in size and weight with the equivalent m4/3 lenses? Expand Ain't no true equivalent to a full frame f1.4 lens on m4/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 2:19 PM, BasiliskFilm said: Ain't no true equivalent to a full frame f1.4 lens on m4/3 Expand I guess that is also debatable with speedboosters etc. But I do think that Sony is making a powerful argument that FF is where we are going to eventually end up.... Gordon Zernich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasiliskFilm Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 2:37 PM, Robert Collins said: I guess that is also debatable with speedboosters etc. But I do think that Sony is making a powerful argument that FF is where we are going to eventually end up.... Expand True, speedboosters get you closer optically, but move you further away in terms of size and weight equivalence. And if we are talking native lenses then AF might be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 1:58 PM, Robert Collins said: ...But I found that I was increasingly looking for bigger and more expensive lenses with M43 than what I considered their equivalent with FF.... Expand @metoo , but on the wide side. My only lens now - FF 35mm/1.4 would be 18mm/0.7 on m4/3.. and it was soo cheap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Max Yuryev has done the first ISO comparison: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 NOW he should make EV equivalents. I hate it when the light isn't "weighed" the same. >>> Max Yuryev has done the first ISO comparison: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Iso for Iso, but it looks almost funny how Yuryev's face suddenly becomes the clearest/sharpest at 1600 in GH5 salim, GreekBeast and Emanuel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Wow, LOTS of A7RIII's for sale suddenly on FM if anyone is lookin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 As per A7III high ISO results, it would be logical to guess that the A7S III will have a similar 24mp sensor with all video extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 No way the S3 has a 24MP sensor. I'd say 20MP at most, more likely 16 or 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Rumors before the announcement suggested a price tag of $1899. I wonder if the XH1 price actually persuaded Sony to increase the price of this a little bit :o They've really hit it out of the ballpark with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I concur. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 9:53 AM, Inazuma said: Rumors before the announcement suggested a price tag of $1899. I wonder if the XH1 price actually persuaded Sony to increase the price of this a little bit :o They've really hit it out of the ballpark with this one. Expand Well the Sonyalpharumors rumors were pretty wide of the mark 167 autofocus points (actual 693) No 1080 120 fps So I am guessing the source really didnt know anything. I would be seriously surprised if those specs were ever planned for US$1899 - they seem incredibly reasonable at the US$1999 price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 10:49 AM, Robert Collins said: Well the Sonyalpharumors rumors were pretty wide of the mark Expand SonySPAMrumors are often of the mark. Like when a7siii was ranked highest in there stupid ranking system last year. Then we got the riii instead. Pretty sure I have enough cookies to open a bakery after I visit that site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 10:49 AM, Robert Collins said: Well the Sonyalpharumors rumors were pretty wide of the mark 167 autofocus points (actual 693) No 1080 120 fps So I am guessing the source really didnt know anything. I would be seriously surprised if those specs were ever planned for US$1899 - they seem incredibly reasonable at the US$1999 price point. Expand It does have 1080 120 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 There is no way that is not temporal NR It looks to be pretty decent at handling noise without color breakdown but it's no longer apples to apples comparison. Now if it's aimed at the "baseline" it might not be a bad thing since NR is very hard to get right. But what happens if we turn it off(if we can)? Can't really say cleaner 20 times and that makes it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekBeast Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 11:26 AM, Inazuma said: It does have 1080 120 though Expand Yeah the sonyrumors said no 1080 120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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