wolf33d Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Officially announced. Incredible camera for the price. Basically an A9 without the 20fps, and with even better battery life, 4K HDR with 14 stop DR with 6K oversampling + better AF than A7R III (same AF as Sony A9) + FHD 120 fps https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-a7iii-officially-announced/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Yeah looks like a great camera. I just bought the a7riii and I am debating whether to cancel the order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said: Yeah looks like a great camera. I just bought the a7riii and I am debating whether to cancel the order... Man I am impressed. Sony really stepped the game here. They must do that knowing that canikon monsters will release their version this year so they wanted to be sure to have the best specs for the price. Seriously, if one does not need 42mpx, this is better than the A7RIII especially when considering price. Very, very impress. Can't wait to be blown away at NAB by A7SIII. Now counting on 4K60p and 10 bit easily. Hands on by PB: http://philipbloom.net/blog/a7iii/ In fact it is even better than A9. It gets a BSI sensor, they claim 15 stops of DR. DR of A9 was pretty bad so we should see a better still image quality here. NikolaOvcharski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobba Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 41 minutes ago, wolf33d said: Man I am impressed. Sony really stepped the game here. They must do that knowing that canikon monsters will release their version this year so they wanted to be sure to have the best specs for the price. Seriously, if one does not need 42mpx, this is better than the A7RIII especially when considering price. Very, very impress. Can't wait to be blown away at NAB by A7SIII. Now counting on 4K60p and 10 bit easily. Hands on by PB: http://philipbloom.net/blog/a7iii/ In fact it is even better than A9. It gets a BSI sensor, they claim 15 stops of DR. DR of A9 was pretty bad so we should see a better still image quality here. The A9 has a stacked BSI sensor with 13.2 stops of DR vs 13.9 for the A7RIII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 This is a great release. Sony nailed it with this one, even more so than A9 and A7rIII. I wonder how cheap the previous A7 cameras will become now, and what is left for the S. Exciting times. EthanAlexander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 AHHHH! I bought the a9 2 weeks ago. The a7iii does better video! I did get the a9 new for cheaper than an a7riii though so can't complain too much. This just killed the resale value of the a7rii. And the price was already falling. I have see the a7rii price drop down to 1500 usd used in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 "The Basic Model." they say. Funny to say the least :-) NikolaOvcharski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax_rox Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Sell my a7sII for this or wait for the a7sIII.... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexO Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Too bad 1.2x crop in 30fps. Most likely meaning that readout could not keep up in 30fps, as a result expecting high rolling shutter on the level of 35ms(similar to a6300/a6500). Quote from dpreview: "24p 4K video is taken from a 6K region of the sensor, while 30p shooting comes from a roughly 5K region with a 1.2x crop". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 So, according to the press release, 30fps @ 4K appears to have a 1.6X crop (don't know if that is standard with ALL sony full frame cameras, so that might not be a surprise to others). Good to see a BSI sensor in a camera for $2,000 Did they say what the readout time of the sensor is? The a6300 / a6500 oversample from 6K and they have pretty heinous rolling shutter. I just don't see Nikon being able to top this with a full frame mirrorless at this price point any time soon (if that is even in the cards now). Maybe if they somehow get AWESOME autofocus using all their AF-S and AF-D lenses (of which there are many), then it might. But who knows. Not a hater. Hoping Nikon competes. 5 minutes ago, alexO said: Too bad 1.2x crop in 30fps. Most likely meaning that readout could not keep up in 30fps, as a result expecting high rolling shutter on the level of 35ms(similar to a6300/a6500). Quote from dpreview: "24p 4K video is taken from a 6K region of the sensor, while 30p shooting comes from a roughly 5K region with a 1.2x crop". Hmmm... the press release they linked to says this: Quote In video mode, the camera uses full pixel readout without pixel binning to collect about 2.4x[xiii] the amount of data required for 4K movies, and then oversamples it to produce high quality 4K footage with exceptional detail and depth. Footnote: [xiii] 24p recording. Approx. 1.6x at 30p. Here is the press release: https://***URL removed***/news/8128895545/sony-launches-a7-iii-sub-2000-24mp-full-frame-mirrorless-with-a7r-iii-s-advances#_edn6 A 1.6X crop would make it super 35, wouldn't it? (Sorry if I am wrong; my maths is horrible.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mark Romero 2 said: So, according to the press release, 30fps @ 4K appears to have a 1.6X crop (don't know if that is standard with ALL sony full frame cameras, so that might not be a surprise to others). Good to see a BSI sensor in a camera for $2,000 Did they say what the readout time of the sensor is? The a6300 / a6500 oversample from 6K and they have pretty heinous rolling shutter. I just don't see Nikon being able to top this with a full frame mirrorless at this price point any time soon (if that is even in the cards now). Maybe if they somehow get AWESOME autofocus using all their AF-S and AF-D lenses (of which there are many), then it might. But who knows. Not a hater. Hoping Nikon competes. I think you are misreading the press release - I believe it is saying that the 4k 30fps is oversampled 1.6x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, Robert Collins said: I think you are misreading the press release - I believe it is saying that the 4k 30fps is oversampled 1.6x Ahh... thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, thefactory said: AHHHH! I bought the a9 2 weeks ago. The a7iii does better video! I did get the a9 new for cheaper than an a7riii though so can't complain too much. This just killed the resale value of the a7rii. And the price was already falling. I have see the a7rii price drop down to 1500 usd used in Australia. It was around that for a while for a7rii in Oz, I bet it gonna drop even more since a7iii will be so much better for everything else if u don’t need 42mp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, wobba said: The A9 has a stacked BSI sensor with 13.2 stops of DR vs 13.9 for the A7RIII. You are wrong. A9 sensor is not BSI (see official Sony specs). That’s why they claim 15 stops of DR with A7III. It will have better IQ than A9 for sure. You are also wrong with the measurement between A9 and RIII. Check DXO as well as real world comparison on Dpreview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobba Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, wolf33d said: You are wrong. A9 sensor is not BSI (see official Sony specs). That’s why they claim 15 stops of DR with A7III. It will have better IQ than A9 for sure. You are also wrong with the measurement between A9 and RIII. Check DXO as well as real world comparison on Dpreview. The A9 sensor is an Exmor RS, according to official Sony specs, which is BSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Jason says he had the camera for 3 weeks, so this is the first lengthily review of A7III https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Lz0_uxpDc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Don Kotlos said: Yeah looks like a great camera. I just bought the a7riii and I am debating whether to cancel the order... I honestly would. It's everything that camera is with a few less megapixels and the A9 AF. I'm hoping to sell my A7r II for it, but this will kill it's resale value. The dual card slots and joystick are totally worth it, and the RS from that sensor is supposed to be superior compared to my A7r II. It's seriously a near flawless camera. Battery life, features, AF, EVERYTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 This also ship in April too while I will be in Japan, I wonder how much discount I could get lol (much better than M50 for me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 The a7iii looks awesome. Full frame, 4K 24p no crop, $2,000... hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Any word on if there is a crop in 4k or 120fps? How about the quality of he 1080p? This camera sounds excellent. Would consider it over the XH1 due to the bigger battery and headphone jack. Emanuel, Kisaha and jonpais 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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