No significant improvement in Canon APS-C sensors since 2004

[Andrew Reid]

 

Source - http://thenewcamera.com/canon-sensor-image-quality-trapped-in-time/

 

Via - Image Sensors World http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/dslr-sensor-progress.html

[Chrad]

Haha, wow.

[Julian]

It's shocking if you see it in a graphic way like this...

It seems like some camera's are missing though, I plotted a graphic myself with this chart:

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Ratings

 

All the aps-c camera's from Sony, Nikon and Canon.

Same idea, but a bit more detailed.

 

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[Andrew Reid]

What I also find strange is the slight deterioration in the latest 18MP sensors.

 

They are taking out photosites and putting phase detect AF sensels in there, but the AF in live view still takes around 5 seconds to lock on. Why?

[Andrew Reid]

Full frame chart.

 

 

Most recent full frame sensors from Canon, Nikon and Sony cameras...

 

Bear in mind also that 1D X is more than double the price of the other two.

 

 

Conclusion - Canon have lost the image quality race and need to make a big leap.

[Julian]

The date stamps are a bit off in your fullframe chart:

 

 

2008/2009 really was the turning point. Both for fullframe and aps-c.

[Andrew Reid]

So they are - corrected!

[Julian]

The 1DX has one advantage over the Sony sensors, it holds better dynamic range at high iso's. This can be an advantage for sports shooters who work at iso 1600 or higher a lot. The Nikon D4 has the same characteristics though..

The Canon sensors just loose big time on dynamic range at low iso's.

 

[jgharding]

Exceedingly poor show. If the 7D II is indeed the first APSC model to have a new sensor, let's hope it's really good.

[Julian]

Exceedingly poor show. If the 7D II is indeed the first APSC model to have a new sensor, let's hope it's really good.

 

The newest rumors are telling the 7D II isn't coming this year... ;)
http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/05/no-7d-mark-ii-in-2013-cr2/

 

The 70D is coming supposedly, but it was rumoured to have the same shitty sensor again.

 

Maybe the 7D II is too good and beats the crap out of the fullframe camera's, so they are delaying it for a while so customers won't be too pissed off and they can still sell some old technique. *wishful thinking*

[Andrew Reid]

70D has same sensor as the SL1. Video mode is same old same old on that... Moire, aliasing, generally very 2009.

 

Hard to get excited about the 7D Mark II now I have a full frame camera in my jacket pocket and a Super 35mm digital cinema camera that shoots 4K raw with a global shutter for $4000.

[jgharding]

Indeed, it's just getting a bit boring watching Canon. They're sitting on some prickly laurels!

[mike_tee_vee]

I've shot stills with both the 5DII and D800, and for my purposes the difference in image quality isn't as obvious as the DxO rankings.  While not class-leading, the still images from Canon cameras are still competent.  Even the original 5D still has a nice "look" to it's images.  Video, on the other hand, is a sick joke.

 

It's too bad there aren't any benchmarks for video performance.  A camera like the VG900 would probably score high on DxO's sensor ranking, but it doesn't really tell us about the video quality.

[andy lee]

Panasonic Rule! I only used my Canon for stills

[matt2491]

Canon, what a disgrace.

[Escapist]

Camera's aren't all specs, but to see no improvement in a decade is criminal. 

[ScreensPro]

Ever heard the saying "if it aint broke, don't fix it"?.... There is a reason Canon are the most used camera brand on earth. Their sensors are fricking beautiful.

 

[andy lee]

and with their h264 codec shockingly soft and blocky for video compared to a hacked Panasonic GH2 with AVCHD

[nazdar]

And also in the lens teritory Sigma is showing their teeth. :)

[ScreensPro]

and with their h264 codec shockingly soft and blocky for video compared to a hacked Panasonic GH2 with AVCHD

 

How does that relate to the sensor?

 

If you all just want a Canon hate thread... why use not just start a thread saying "we hate Canon" rather than trying to make out they are behind in sensor tech?

 

If anything, you should all be crying that Nikon and Sony's sensors can hit 15 stops, yet offer arguably less DR, in video mode, than the Canons.