dahlfors Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's just paper stats though, to me. I've never taken a still shot on my 5DII and thought, "i wish that had more DR". Even shooting in the harshest conditions. If that drop in DR results in Canon's colour and skin tones.... Then i'm fine with it. Try shooting with a sensor with better DR or some of the analog films with higher DR and you'll notice the difference in highlights and shadows. Then you'll understand that it isn't paper stats... userage: Yep, Pentax uses the Sony sensors as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I've owned, rented and shot on all sorts of cameras, Nikon D3, Red One, Film etc etc Note that i said i've never wished i'd had more, on the Canons..... not that you cannot tell the difference between 12 stops and 15 stops. 12 stops is enough for 99.5% of shots. I'd rather have the Canon colour and skin tones than extra DR that only shows in the harshest of conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 and on the day that it looks like Canon's 5DIII might get raw video.... it leads me to the wonder if some indie film makers might always be left chasing numbers. "I can't shoot my movie on the 5DIII raw because it only has 12 stops". * That's not aimed at you, dahlfors.... Just a general thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 well this thread is now redundant due to the new Magic Lantern hack for the 5D MKIII RAW on a full frame sensor - at last it is no longer crippled by the H264 codec!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Surely it makes it more relevant than ever to those that were saying how disgraceful Canon were for not working on their sensors for over a decade? raw or not, surely those sensors are terrible, right? 10 years without improvement.... must be almost unusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrad Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The 5D Mk III isn't an APS-C sensor. And the issue isn't that the footage is 'unusable', it's that it's of comparable quality but the price barely drops over years and years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Magic Lantern have said they are rolling out this RAW hack over the range of Canon Cameras including the 600d APSC too...so watch this space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Arica Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Yeah I heard that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 (which is a shame), but nothing is official yet. I'm still holding onto my 60D until I see that the 70D will be worth it (mainly looking for ISO performance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 14, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted May 14, 2013 The good thing is all the Canon DSLRs share similar code and DryOS, with only the dual-chip 7D being a bit of an odd one. They will port raw to other cameras and explore how far they can be pushed, but currently the 5D Mark III has the most capable hardware. 1D X even better of course, but a big mouth Canon 'rep' warned them off touching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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