markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 A cloudy day. The Sony RX0. Shot in Slog2/SGamut. Recorded from the 422 10bit HDMI output on the Shogun Inferno. There is even a focus pull. Edited in Resolve Studio. Not much action, since this was a test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgabogomez Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Does it send 10bit out? I thought it was same as a7 line and 8bit 422 through hdmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, elgabogomez said: Does it send 10bit out? I thought it was same as a7 line and 8bit 422 through hdmi https://www.atomos.com/cameras/sony-rx0 elgabogomez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 now that’s interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgabogomez Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Might be a sign of things to come, first 10bit 4k trough hdmi from sony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Would it be possible for you to share one of original recorder files? (A short one to save bandwidth. You could use WeTransfer and share the download link here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 What kind of setup would people use this in? I thought that by the time you add an external recorder (and likely a cage of some kind to connect the camera and recorder) that the benefit of having an action camera was lost and you may as well have a larger camera. Not criticising - I'm interested to hear how it would be used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, kye said: What kind of setup would people use this in? I thought that by the time you add an external recorder (and likely a cage of some kind to connect the camera and recorder) that the benefit of having an action camera was lost and you may as well have a larger camera. Not criticising - I'm interested to hear how it would be used Stick the camera on your head, have an HDMI cable running over your shoulder and into a bag on your back, monitor in the bag inside some kind of padded box to protect it? It might get a little warm I suppose, but it would work. It also depends what you use an action camera for. If it's to film inside a car, then you can put the recorder in a number of places to keep it safe and out the way. If it's for surfing, then... don't do this. kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1. HLG and S-Log2 are completely different log gamma, RX0 cannot shoot HLG, only the latest A7III and A7R III can. 2. The 10bit output from RX0 is (internally) padded, from 8bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 54 minutes ago, Luke Mason said: 1. HLG and S-Log2 are completely different log gamma, RX0 cannot shoot HLG, only the latest A7III and A7R III can. 2. The 10bit output from RX0 is (internally) padded, from 8bit. 1. We all know this. You shoot in Slog2/SGamut and in post you convert to HLG/REC202. HLG is a delivery format. I could just as well have produced an HDR10 video, but the HLG format is more compatible with REC709 viewers. And, no, the Sony FS5 also shoots in HLG as well as the AX700 and its Pro variants. 2. And, where is your info on 2.? 3 hours ago, kye said: What kind of setup would people use this in? I thought that by the time you add an external recorder (and likely a cage of some kind to connect the camera and recorder) that the benefit of having an action camera was lost and you may as well have a larger camera. Not criticising - I'm interested to hear how it would be used Another use, not hypothetical: kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Still waiting for proof of his statement several days ago that the Kinefinity Terra 4K uses the same sensor as the GH5S, supplied by Sony Semiconductor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, cantsin said: Would it be possible for you to share one of original recorder files? (A short one to save bandwidth. You could use WeTransfer and share the download link here.) I will do this, but unfortunately I will be traveling until Monday and am away from my main computer. I will do it then. I can upload an original 4K ProRes HQ clip (Slog2/SGamut) to Vimeo, where everyone can download it (and see it!) A Vlogger's setup!! (note that the RX0 has an external mic input). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 All sorts of uses for 4K! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Damn it why did you start this. Something else to possibly buy! This thing is damn interesting to be sure.. But sort of like a BMPCC, by the time you rig it out thingy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Now we have another reason to want a small external recorder: The GH5 can then shoot 4K 60P in 10bit, the FS5 can then shoot 4K DCI RAW or 4K DCI 60P and 120P in 10bit, etc. handheld. The 7" Shogun or Video Assist just look ridiculous and act really awkwardly with these otherwise highly-portable cameras that have this extra capability only externally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, markr041 said: Now we have another reason to want a small external recorder: The GH5 can then shoot 4K 60P in 10bit, the FS5 can then shoot 4K DCI RAW or 4K DCI 60P and 120P in 10bit, etc. handheld. The 7" Shogun or Video Assist just look ridiculous and act really awkwardly with these otherwise highly-portable cameras that have this extra capability only externally. Yeah I have no clue why there is not one Really good 5" recorder. They all seem to be 7". They are stupid to use for Mirrorless cameras. markr041 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted March 30, 2018 Super Members Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, jonpais said: Still waiting for proof of his statement several days ago that the Kinefinity Terra 4K uses the same sensor as the GH5S, supplied by Sony Semiconductor. The theory is that its this one. Based on the specs, it would add up. https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products_en/new_pro/may_2017/imx294cjk_e.html It is also used in astronomy cameras as well so there does in theory exist a way to make your own very ghetto 4K raw C mount camera system by attaching it to a high end windows tablet. As the module is quite small, it wouldn't be too dissimilar conceptually to what is being shown on this thread attaching the RX0 to an Atomos. Not dissimilar prices either. https://www.firstlightoptics.com/zwo-cameras/zwo-asi-294mc-usb-30-colour-camera.html Someone has done a video here maxmizer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Please let's not use this thread, on the Sony RX0, to discuss the sensor on the Kinefinity Terra! There is a thread for that. (I understand why the above post is here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Found this rig setup on cinema5d. They have a damn nice video taken with it. https://***URL not allowed***/sony-rx0-review-sample-footage-and-first-impressions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: Found this rig setup on cinema5d. They have a damn nice video taken with it. https://***URL not allowed***/sony-rx0-review-sample-footage-and-first-impressions/ To me, the magic of the camera is its ability to shoot (through an excellent rectilinear WA lens) high-quality 4K externally , which the above rig is not doing. As the review indicates the FullHD internally (420 8bit) is nothing special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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