Luke Mason Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Here are two more screenshots, there are three dynamic range modes (video, extended video and film), these were shot with "film" at ISO 3200 if I remember correctly: anonim, Anaconda_, Django and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Luke Mason said: Trust me, I have my hands on some ProRes and DNG materials from the camera (acquired from NAB), it's clean af up to about 6400. Noise pattern is very pleasant fine grain, due to lack of compression obviously. The sensor is confirmed to be IMX294CJK, it's the STARVIS line from Sony Semicon with BSI design, originally intended for low light surveillance. ProRes screenshot: Wow. I am curious though, why is it at 3840 x 2160 instead of 4096 x 2160? Nice image, and how did you get this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, sanveer said: Wow. I am curious though, why is it at 3840 x 2160 instead of 4096 x 2160? Nice image, and how did you get this one. It was the default setting on the camera, UHD 4K instead of DCI 4K, all of them are ISO 3200. They didn't tape the card slot, so... graphicnatured, IronFilm, sanveer and 6 others 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Luke Mason said: It was the default setting on the camera, UHD 4K instead of DCI 4K, all of them are ISO 3200. They didn't tape the card slot, so... Wow. You're a star. I wonder if Andrew woupd be so kind, as to award you the star of the day for today. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 nicely done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 @Luke Mason So, is that a lounge they have set up in their booth? Or was it at a mixer or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, mercer said: @Luke Mason So, is that a lounge they have set up in their booth? Or was it at a mixer or something? If you have been watching the NAB coverage, you'll know that it's a studio scene set up with cameras and monitors around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Luke Mason said: If you have been watching the NAB coverage, you'll know that it's a studio scene set up with cameras and monitors around it. No I haven’t, but I work in the trade show industry, so I was just curious. Pretty cool. I had an opportunity to work NAB this year but my schedule conflicted... maybe next year, it seems like a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 @Luke Mason do you remember what lens was on camera by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 A la style of Kodak Eastman Color Negative T50 (Rosemary's Babe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Django said: @Luke Mason do you remember what lens was on camera by any chance? Olympus 12-40 f/2.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 willing to share the dng? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jay Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I pre-ordered in UK, only needed £50 deposit at CVP so no big deal even if the camera is delayed. Price is £975 + VAT which seems an absolute bargain if it includes DaVinci studio. I have m43 lenses already so investment is minimal. Should be a fun camera. JordanWright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Mokara said: Can't shoot much stuff with a shell containing no electronics inside So he faked the shot of the audience from the external drive that he ingested and played back on Davinci. There are tens of videos now from the camera at the show with at least live view, why you don't go there and find out those liars Mr Sherlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Nice news - meanwhile I'm playing with Resolve 15 beta studio - temporal Noice Reduction is indeed very much improved, i.e. temporal treshold values more precisely preserve finest details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Luke Mason said: Trust me, I have my hands on some ProRes and DNG materials from the camera (acquired from NAB), it's clean af up to about 6400. Noise pattern is very pleasant fine grain, due to lack of compression obviously. The sensor is confirmed to be IMX294CJK, it's the STARVIS line from Sony Semicon with BSI design, originally intended for low light surveillance. ProRes screenshot: Would it be able for you to upload the original camera video file somewhere (for example, WeTransfer, with the download link here on the forum)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, mercer said: I fervently agree. I am as excited as hell for this camera... even though I’ll wait until they’re readily available to buy one. I was just trying to make a point that it’s possible that this camera’s specs, specifically high ISO, won’t live up to the expectations. These, all BM, cameras have quirks and issues like magenta casts, fixed pattern noise, black hole sun, deadlines not being met... so I hope people are prepared for this instead of jumping on board and expecting something this won’t be and then spreading hatred because their unrealistic expectations weren’t met. I mean, hell there are already posts questioning and hoping for great AF... I can tell you right now... it won’t be good. I think speculation are off the chart, this clearly doesn't seems to be the same sensor tech used by BM since now. Them advertising +1600 ISO is a massive change from their camera before this one. Many thing points at a Sony sensor and we know what we can expect a bit from Sony sensor's and it would be much better that what was the case from previous BM cameras. So I say, better wait before applying some general rule to previous BM cams and workflows. Playing with the file, nice mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damphousse Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, anonim said: Is it common outcome that after presentation of "final" product and open pre-order selling still rest so much unanswered questions? It is not rhetorically question - simply I've never paid to much attention on usual promotional behavior... But here I noticed that several visitors confirm the same - to quote one of them: "Blackmagic people were unwilling to say anything on camera." I don't understand why. Am I wrong when it seems to me that at the moment we really dispose mostly with glaring promises which, of course, all of us greatly respect and wish or longing for - but we actually know very little how efficiently they will be implemented? Because we saw so little of examples of promised look and implementation? I think you know the answer. Most companies don't do a presentation and then open preorders six months in advance so I am not sure what you expect us to compare it to. It is 2018. Blackmagic is a different kind of company. Frankly Blackmagic of 2018 is different from Blackmagic of 2015. People are even getting tripped up comparing it to Blackmagic of five years ago. The product and the company have evolved. What usually happens with these cameras is you get a bunch of rumors of varying quality from different websites and a company that refuses to answer any questions. Blackmagic cut out the BS middle man and has given you a lot of the FACTS. Do you mean to imply you prefer the sketchy rumor route? What Blackmagic is doing is unusual but I don't get the angst. Just treat their announcement like you do the rumor sites and wait six months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Danyyyel said: I think speculation are off the chart, this clearly doesn't seems to be the same sensor tech used by BM since now. Them advertising +1600 ISO is a massive change from their camera before this one. Many thing points at a Sony sensor and we know what we can expect a bit from Sony sensor's and it would be much better that what was the case from previous BM cameras. So I say, better wait before applying some general rule to previous BM cams and workflows. Playing with the file, nice Good points and nice grade! Honestly, I’m not even being cautious here for myself... if I were to only get the bump in 1080p frame rates at that price, I’d be a happy camper. Everything else is gravy... especially not having to use an IR Cut Filter or anti-aliasing filter. But I will add, if people are curious about how good the autofocus is, this camera may not be for them... or who knows, maybe they’ll surprise everybody and have a usable tracking autofocus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozmorphasis Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Luke, can you share files so that we can take a stab at grading? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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