webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Axel said: Not the smartest people at such events. I wasn't aware that HLG - us poor men's HDR - was in the menu: This thing has a Hell of a lot of stuff for an amazing price of really just $999.00. You can almost bet by the time this thing comes out you will be able to Just buy the body without the Dongle. I can't see BM Forcing people to Re Buy a product they may already have. I know you Could re sell it but that is sort of a crazy way to market it. Now maybe if you can provide a serial # for the full blown Resolve you can only pay 999 bucks, if not you have to pay 1299 bucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: I can't see BM Forcing people to Re Buy a product they may already have. I know you Could re sell it but that is sort of a crazy way to market it. Not at all...software distribution is basically free. So BM can claim if you include the cost of the software this is a sub $1000 cinema camera. It cost money to manufacture, QA, ship hardware. Even at $1300 for a low volume hardware company it's quiet amazing. So I don't see them selling the camera without the dangle dongle for $1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: This thing has a Hell of a lot of stuff for an amazing price of really just $995.00. You can almost bet by the time this thing comes out you will be able to Just buy the body without the Dongle. I can't see BM Forcing people to Re Buy a product they may already have. I know you Could re sell it but that is sort of a crazy way to market it. Idk, I think the price is the price. I have a feeling, there may be a revamped “Pro” version of Resolve in the works, which will expand upon the Studio version and this is why they are giving it out for free with the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 imagine selling the body only for 999. Or the body and FREE software for 1299 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, salim said: Not at all...software distribution is basically free. So BM can claim if you include the cost of the software this is a sub $1000 cinema camera. It cost money to manufacture, QA, ship hardware. Even at $1300 for a low volume hardware company it's quiet amazing. So I don't see them selling the camera without the dangle dongle for $1000. Yeah but why would you pay again for something you already have? That is sort of stupid. There is a hell of a lot of people have the Studio version, and a hell of a lot of them will probably buy this camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 You’re not paying for it, it comes free with the price of the camera. It’s just a marketing ploy to get people into their post workflow system and an extra bit to entice people to buy the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danilo Del Tufo Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, mercer said: You’re not paying for it, it comes free with the price of the camera. If i've understood correctly, the software costs about 300$, so the camera costs less 300$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, mercer said: You’re not paying for it, it comes free with the price of the camera. It is not free, Why the hell would you pay a premium for a thing you already own. What you going to do with the Dongle, there will be a million of them on ebay! Before this camera was announced there was a short press release of the 2 prices I have said above. I think it may happen. And really, nothing is free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Danilo Del Tufo said: If i've understood correctly, the software costs about 300$, so the camera costs less 300$. But you cannot buy the camera without the free software included, so you are still paying $1299 for the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, mercer said: But you cannot buy the camera without the free software included, so you are still paying $1299 for the camera. This month you can't, 6 months from now maybe LoL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: It is not free, Why the hell would you pay a premium for a thing you already own. What you going to do with the Dongle, there will be a million of them on ebay! Before this camera was announced there was a short press release of the 2 prices I have said above. I think it may happen. And really, nothing is free. But who would pay for a full price add on when there will hundreds of dongles for sale on eBay for at least $100 off the full price. The camera costs $1299, with the price of the camera, they are giving you free software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, mercer said: Idk, I think the price is the price. I have a feeling, there may be a revamped “Pro” version of Resolve in the works, which will expand upon the Studio version and this is why they are giving it out for free with the camera. That may be very true if and when the camera, or all of their cameras get ProRes Raw. They All should be able to use it. BM is in a damn good position on this. Grant Petty is one smart cookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 If you need the software or not, it’s irrelevant to the price of the camera. hansel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, mercer said: If you need the software or not, it’s irrelevant to the price of the camera. God Damn you are a Hard Headed person. You must be part Irish LoL. I guess that means you are not buying then. I know 1000 bucks is sort of your line drawn in the sand! mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 It’s like going to Walgreens and they have a buy one get one sale of paper towels. You are paying full price for the first roll of paper towels and the second roll you are getting for free. You cannot go to the counter and say, well I already paid for paper towels last week, so I don’t need the second roll of free paper towels, will you please deduct the price of the paper towels I paid for last week from the paper towels I am buying this week. Emanuel and hansel 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Honestly, at $1300...who cares. BM is trying to get more people into the resolve ecosystem and as others have said it isn't actually a cost for them at this point to include the software. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, mercer said: It’s like going to Walgreens and they have a buy one get one sale of paper towels. You are paying full price for the first roll of paper towels and the second roll you are getting for free. You cannot go to the counter and say, well I already paid for paper towels last week, so I don’t need the second roll of free paper towels, will you please deduct the price of the paper towels I paid for last week from the paper towels I am buying this week. I will bet you a hmm, I have this crappy old beat up Canon lens that would work on your 5D mk III, that you will be able to just buy the body down the road for 999 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I think this was just a way to keep them selfs relevant and that we won't see the camera until 2019, maybe some residual stock that won't even fulfill the preorders, and once in stock the price will be more something like 1899€. Why announce a camera 6 months earlier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: I will bet you a hmm, I have this crappy old beat up Canon lens that would work on your 5D mk III, that you will be able to just buy the body down the road for 999 bucks. Now maybe, Davinci will give a 10% off discount to people who purchased Resolve Studio in the past 3 months... but I doubt it. But seriously why would I take a bet when the prize is described as... “this crappy, old beat up lens.” Lol. 6 minutes ago, Nikkor said: I think this was just a way to keep them selfs relevant and that we won't see the camera until 2019, maybe some residual stock that won't even fulfill the preorders, and once in stock the price will be more something like 1899€. Why announce a camera 6 months earlier... Prepare for a backlash in... 3... 2... 1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 That dongle is not free, it cost money to make it, copy Resolve to it, ship it to you LoL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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