Super Members BTM_Pix Posted November 10, 2018 Super Members Share Posted November 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Could be worse, it is not on fire like California is!! The footage from inside the car of someone driving through the fire to escape was proper apocalyptic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Kisaha said: Great! I am going your way too! I am staying NX at the moment (I have 4 cameras and 8 lenses plus unlimited accessories) using those as my hybrid cameras, and I will eventually buy a P4K as a dedicated video camera, until change hybrid system altogether sometime in the next couple of years. Photos are just a small portion of my pro life anyway, so doesn't make a lot of sense to invest a lot of coin that way. I am waiting for your real world experiences and comments eagerly. It will be difficult to match the cameras, I have filmconvert and maybe that helps a little. Does Resolve have support for the NX1 colour and gamma profiles? If so, you could use the Colour Space Transform OSX plugin to convert both types of files to a common colour space. Although it's not perfect, I've had good results and it does most of the work, I just wish it had support for Protune so I could also use it to match GoPro footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted November 10, 2018 Super Members Share Posted November 10, 2018 My Pocket4K was suitably attired for his day out today. Leica R by Leica SL at Leica HQ deezid, Andrew Reid, dslnc and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I am working right now with a P4K. Can't believe how cheap the construction feels (and probably is), buttons and wheels feel toy like. The monitor is amazing, UI too. It balances ok, but not perfect with the Crane 2, it is kinda wide. I can't say I am really enthusiastic about it! Already burned most of our batteries. e..t.c Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kisaha said: The monitor is amazing... Like a girl, you have no clue why she is the one but she is... ; -) "Is there anybody going to listen to my story All about the girl who came to stay? She's the kind of girl You want so much it make you sorry Still you don't regret a single day Ah, girl, girl, girl..." ~ JL & PM dslnc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Kisaha said: I am working right now with a P4K. Can't believe how cheap the construction feels (and probably is), buttons and wheels feel toy like. The monitor is amazing, UI too. It balances ok, but not perfect with the Crane 2, it is kinda wide. I can't say I am really enthusiastic about it! Already burned most of our batteries. e..t.c Yeah its really a bummer when the exterior is shitty. Handling is a big part of using a camera. I wouldn't mind it being $200 more for a better body. I don't know, we are probably just too picky. Its still a banging deal for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Yeah, you are. It is ridiculous from a certain point. Like kids complain on free sweeties... : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Yeah, you are. It is ridiculous from a certain point. Like kids complain on free sweeties... : -) Yes but at least it gives the companies a reason to constantly improve. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Yes but at least it gives the companies a reason to constantly improve. ? People tend to forget when this same camera outcome didn't exist at all for any price actually... Nothing at all. Closer only into the $100,000 realm without mention studio recorder and player to add a post production suite to double or triple the six digits investment. I am just done with so picky and uneducated complaints. People need to get scope before start shooting without perspective at all from absolute ignorance, bad memory or simply lighthearted distortion of reality. greenscreen and dslnc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Emanuel said: People tend to forget when this same camera outcome didn't exist at all for any price actually... Nothing at all. Closer only into the $100,000 realm without mention studio recorder and player to add a post production suite, to double or triple the investment. I am done with so picky and uneducated complaints. People need to get scope before start shooting without perspective. Well of course. I don't think the body being cheap is uneducated though. You could take bodies in the same price range that are much nicer. But yes its a revolutionary camera. You can say the same about the GH5 though or the Fuji XT3 etc... greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Well of course. I don't think the body being cheap is uneducated though. You could take bodies in the same price range that are much nicer. But yes its a revolutionary camera. You can say the same about the GH5 though or the Fuji XT3 etc... Sure, even though fair reports on lack of reliability for X-T3 should concern much more than plastic because it doesn't look like very likely PRO... Sigh : ) I am a PRO because that's what I proudly do for living from a plastic camera ! This even makes me a better PRO... LOL greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 The image is there. Definitely. Good ISO performance too. We all are going to buy one. This is going to be a standard in our trade, either as A, or B, or special cam, or whatever. Also one can adapt whatever lens, so anything is possible. With 1500 total money you have everything you need. greenscreen and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 To me IQ and reliability is everything I guess we can't complain about ; -) greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Sure, even though the XT3 reports on lack of reliability should concern more than plastic because it doesn't look like very likely PRO... Sigh : -) I've heard reports of Canon and Sony cameras dying abruptly too. I am not really worried though. I always bring back ups in case of such a thing. I've heard of RED cameras abruptly going bad, its just the nature of tech IMO. If you really need 100% reliability you just have to be prepared for such a break down. I guess its always possible that your main camera and 2 back ups all break down, but its a freak of nature. I'll definitely be getting the BMP 4K though I feel like it will be outdated in a short period of time. I guess that is the case with all cameras though. greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: I'll definitely be getting the BMP 4K though I feel like it will be outdated in a short period of time. I guess that is the case with all cameras though. Funny, I think exactly the opposite. This camera is already outdated from the scratch... Remember, it is MFT : D Well, to my eyes otherwise, it will be much hard to be beaten. To take the previous example(s), not even when BMD will launch a substitute ; -) 8 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: I've heard reports of Canon and Sony cameras dying abruptly too. I am not really worried though. I always bring back ups in case of such a thing. I've heard of RED cameras abruptly going bad, its just the nature of tech IMO. If you really need 100% reliability you just have to be prepared for such a break down. I guess its always possible that your main camera and 2 back ups all break down, but its a freak of nature. I never had a single problem with Panasonic gear BTW... I guess that's why I don't mind to be called a Panny fanboy : -D greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Funny, I think exactly the opposite. This camera is already outdated from the scratch... Remember, it is MFT : D Well, to my eyes otherwise, it will be much hard to be beaten. To take the previous example(s), not even when BMD will launch a substitute ; -) I never had a single problem with Panasonic gear BTW... I guess that's why I don't mind to be called a Panny fanboy : -D I was as well but I left as Auto focus wasn't good enough for me. Their bodies were really great though. Can't beat the feel and size of the GH5. The GH4 was really nice too. greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: I was as well but I left as Auto focus wasn't good enough for me. Their bodies were really great though. Can't beat the feel and size of the GH5. The GH4 was really nice too. Past nowadays: andrgl and greenscreen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Past nowadays: The new updates definitely seem a lot better then before. Still can't compare with Sony or Fuji unfortunately. Its the old contrast detect system. greenscreen and andrgl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: The new updates definitely seem a lot better then before. Still can't compare with Sony or Fuji unfortunately. Its the old contrast detect system. Source for (verifying) such bold statement? ; ) Prejudice? It can even be true but what do you or we know on the subject matter? I can't compare them... Can you? Where's a fair comparison? And you or anyone else will be able to shut fanboys mouth then... ; -) greenscreen and andrgl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 None of the tests I've seen show auto focus that compares to Sony or Fuji. So there is no reason to believe a contrast detect system is going to magically beat systems that have inherently superior hybrid contrast/phase systems in them. greenscreen and andrgl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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