Emanuel Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, kye said: I asked the pro colourists if I should ETTR with the 10-bit footage on the GH5 and they said it wasn't necessary and it would be better to expose as normal. I thought that people used ETTR to get better signal:noise in 8-bit, so anything 10-bit or more should be fine. Digital is becoming film with these new toys around. - E : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Digital is becoming film with these new toys around. - E : -) The output files are certainly starting to look like film, that's for sure! Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 ETTR is just one among many exposure tools. It depends on the circumstances as to if it's the best tool. There are no scopes on the P4K and the zebras are not accurate and change with ISO so there is quite a bit of experience needed to get the best out of it in a contrasty lighting situation. As a result of some tests today I'd advise only using ISO 400-1000 and 3200-8000 in ProRes and be wary of what the zebras are telling you if you go off 400 or 3200 ISO. Emanuel and AlexTrinder96 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Does anyone know where skintones should sit on the BMD Film curve? As long as you know that, you can use false color and either hit them dead on or go up a stop or so? But it sounds like a 2 iso camera and that’s how I would treat it. I think, @BTM_Pix burns in his LUTS, so I imagine he is hitting his exposure dead on. How’s the noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, mercer said: Does anyone know where skintones should sit on the BMD Film curve? As long as you know that, you can use false color and either hit them dead on or go up a stop or so? But it sounds like a 2 iso camera and that’s how I would treat it. I'd go 1 stop over for Caucasian and closer to middle grey for darker skin! mercer and Kieran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, AlexTrinder96 said: I'd go 1 stop over for Caucasian and closer to middle grey for darker skin! Wow they give you a lot of information... was that in the manual or do they have a white page published somewhere? Shit they even give you where 80% zebras hit... which I assume is an important zebra setting if they’re including it in this graphic. Has anyone tried to ETTR skin tones at 80% zebra level and then let everything else fall where it may? Can you assign FC to a function button and toggle it on and off? How about while recording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/BlackmagicPocketCinemaCamera4K/20181123-e9d5f0/BlackmagicPocketCinemaCamera4KManual.pdf page 29/30... I'm pretty sure you can assign it, but it's on the main screen for sure! Can defo toggle it on and off... @mercer Turboguard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, mercer said: Can you assign FC to a function button and toggle it on and off? How about while recording? Out of the box, FC is on F1, LUT on F2 and Guides on F3. You can toogle them on and off as much as you want during and off recording. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted January 22, 2019 Super Members Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, mercer said: I think, @BTM_Pix burns in his LUTS, so I imagine he is hitting his exposure dead on. How’s the noise? Don't drag me into it 99% of my time with this camera has been spent writing a controller for it rather than using it to make actual images so I can't really chime in with anything anywhere near authoritative on it as yet. I'm watching this closely though, as if enough consensus builds then I might actually add an option to interactively lock the ranges so that if you go from ISO1000 on the camera or the app it automatically goes to ISO3200 instead of ISO1250 and the same on the way down from ISO3200 to ISO1000. AlexTrinder96 and Grimor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post webrunner5 Posted January 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2019 LMAO. Dunjoye, AlexTrinder96, Shirozina and 7 others 4 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, webrunner5 said: LMAO. Now THAT is how to shoot a camera test!! Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbCinC_12 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 17 hours ago, kye said: Now THAT is how to shoot a camera test!! Bravo! Its finale is what gave it away! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 This film was posted on the P4k FB group earlier. WOW. By DAVE HILL https://vimeo.com/304999893?fbclid=IwAR2eii51lO2jPHV0mQj1JmhplQRhKhp0YYaO_FHc2jEpYXe8KicJKm53PYo Jonesy Jones, Ehetyz, webrunner5 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, AlexTrinder96 said: This film was posted on the P4k FB group earlier. WOW. By DAVE HILL https://vimeo.com/304999893?fbclid=IwAR2eii51lO2jPHV0mQj1JmhplQRhKhp0YYaO_FHc2jEpYXe8KicJKm53PYo Thanks for sharing this. And yeah, this is amazing! The filmmaker really made great choices in that film. And I cannot believe he shot that in ProRes LT onto SD cards. He may have just single handedly restored my faith in this camera. AlexTrinder96 and graphicnatured 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, mercer said: He may have just single handedly restored my faith in this camera. He used the 12-35 f2.8 and SLR magic 17mm only! Impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I wonder if that Motel shot is all natural lighting. Very nice looking, highlights aren't blown out. Those shots are very well composed and are also nice looking locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, thebrothersthre3 said: I wonder if that Motel shot is all natural lighting. Very nice looking, highlights aren't blown out. Those shots are very well composed and are also nice looking locations. He claims it was all just natural light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, AlexTrinder96 said: This film was posted on the P4k FB group earlier. WOW. By DAVE HILL Thanks for sharing that, what a wonderful piece. Lots of great things to say about it, the thing I liked most about it is that it really had a strong and coherent style, fun and whimsical but also tender and genuine too. But perhaps the greatest compliment I can pay it is that despite it being shot on a significant camera, and being shared in the thread discussing that camera, when I watched it I stopped thinking about the camera and just enjoyed it as a creative work and all thoughts of equipment dropped away. This is the point of art, to take us to another place, right? AlexTrinder96, webrunner5, mercer and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, mercer said: He may have just single handedly restored my faith in this camera. And to think, .braw is still to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Jonesy Jones said: And to think, .braw is still to come. Ehh... who needs B-Raw when you can shoot ProRes LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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