David Andrade Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 A few things. 1. I hear you on Olympus. People sleep on them, but I have faith. Hopefully they don't drop any balls with any future releases. There is a lot they have going for them. They just need impressive video specs. 2. As far as credit, it is what it is, I suppose. I had the most viewed Speedgrade tutorial on YouTube (I still may) but Adobe didn't come to me with any free invites or promotions or anything. While I understand YouTube videos and all the information you've share over the years, and hosting this forum are two VERY different things, I just believe that companies have their own plans and logic for what they do. 3. Why cancel it? Who is it really hurting? You, no? I mean if you're bothered by Blackmagic, that's your prerogative. But just don't make a review or post it on your blog then? You've just robbed yourself of owning a camera you may love, because.....why? It's not as if you're really "sticking it" to them. Sure, they may have lost a sale, but it's just one sale. Timotheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The only reason I learned there is a company named BMD was EOSHD. Maybe I'm not important for this company that they don't care if I know about them, or how is my perception about them. But someday I will buy a dedicated video camera, and thats not gonna be thier product. You know.. customers don't grow on trees. Andrew Reid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunjoye Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, matthere said: Lol love this light hearted review.. I chuckled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 "Why I won’t be buying the upcoming Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K" Ha! This is awesome and why this forum is legit. Warts and all. Andrew feels slighted, lets everyone know why, and lays it all out online. Don't have to agree or admire the guy, but at least he lets you know where he's coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted September 10, 2018 39 minutes ago, Dan Sherman said: See, this is why you don't get any support! You paint the entire world as either for you or against you, when in reality its not anywhere close to that. Deary me. Don't overreact! 23 minutes ago, David Andrade said: 1. I hear you on Olympus. People sleep on them, but I have faith. Hopefully they don't drop any balls with any future releases. There is a lot they have going for them. They just need impressive video specs. The E-M1 II already had impressive video specs when it came out (quite a bit ago now). The E-M10 III is like that but tiny and cheap, with a different sensor and latest colour processing / chipset. I hope Olympus go from strength to strength. It hasn't been easy for them of late. The camera market can afford to lose maybe Pentax (sad though it is) but to lose Olympus as well would be a disaster. 23 minutes ago, David Andrade said: 3. Why cancel it? Who is it really hurting? You, no? No! I just saved myself £1200! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sherman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Deary me. Don't overreact! Should we add condescending and an inability to take any type of criticism to the list? iamoui and TheRenaissanceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted September 10, 2018 Oh dear, pity pity Danny boy. Dan's upset! DAN'S UPSET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: It has some mojo in the image I haven't seen for a while at that price and the handling in some ways is more enjoyable than a lot of the high-end cameras. Still can't stop liking Oly. It's just...man, the things you can do easily with their stuff is just fun. The enjoyment factor compensates for the slightly-behind-the-curve IQ specs. Cant wait to see the Em5III. PannySVHS and noplz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sherman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Oh dear, pity pity Danny boy. Dan's upset! DAN'S UPSET! First off, lol... There is literally nothing you could say that could make me care enough to be upset. Secondly, By all means please continue doing what you are doing. You're doing a fine job of proving my (and others) previous points. iamoui 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagnje Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 blackmagic didn`t invite me either...I`ll have those 3 ursas thrown away asap! I wish that the admin could clean(after himself) this thread up, so we can talk about a camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 noplz, dslnc, jbCinC_12 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 How wide and fast can we get on the 100fps HD mode? Big crop that. Looking at MFT and APS-C lenses with Speedbooster XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, jagnje said: I wish that the admin could clean(after himself) this thread up, so we can talk about a camera. Eh. You want sanitized opinions, lots of other places online for it. There's drama here, but it's pretty innocuous stuff -- it's simply about cameras and the misc things around that. It's not life and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthere Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Oliver Daniel said: How wide and fast can we get on the 100fps HD mode? Big crop that. Looking at MFT and APS-C lenses with Speedbooster XL. Laowa 7.5mm f2 might be worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Dan Sherman said: See, this is why you don't get any support! You paint the entire world as either for you or against you, when in reality its not anywhere close to that. Oh come on. There has never been a more Cult Following camera than the BMPCC. Probably me included. I look at BM as a poor mans Red camera. But the problem is this is beginning to look like a typical BM roll out. And that Ain't necessarily a good thing. JeremyDulac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimNassar Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Hello Andrew, I've always appreciated these boards and your articles. I have not been active on here lately because I've been solely working on stills. But I've been checking your articles and I value your work. So much negativity online sometimes, we never think to simply say we appreciate things. Read your latest article and dropped by to say that you are the kind of qualified unbiased professional we need at those events. Hope you will be acknowledged next time. Andrew Reid and Francola 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Popular Post Andrew Reid Posted September 10, 2018 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2018 Thanks Karim And Dan, yes webrunner is right. It's a cultish following around the Pocket camera. For example, I understand that Facebook targets each post to a subset of my followers on the EOSHD Facebook Page, depending on the subject. It's automatic, I don't have any control over it. But a lot of pitchforks came out for me today on Facebook which confused me because EOSHD supporters, followers and friends don't usually behave like that.... I know why this time was different, because Facebook had targeted a Blackmagic article at the Blackmagic hardcore fanatics and they didn't like what I had to say. As for typical BM roll out, yes it is. Trade shows have less meaning to everybody outside the bubble. Most customers don't want to be teased for half a year or even more before they can get the damn camera in their hands. Blackmagic should stop syncing their announcements to NAB and instead put the announcement out a week before they start shipping. The irony is, here I am feeling upset about being passed over for a camera in my hands... with a hardcore of Blackmagic users saying "what a crybaby EOSHD is" when at the last few camera launches, those very same people were moaning about not having a camera in their hands, because it's late or whatever. At the end of the day, I reflect on the course this thread just took and I regret it. I stand by my hurt over the camera and snub, but I regret what's happened. Take what you read from everyone on forums with a pinch of salt including even yourself whilst saying it! And including me. I am not myself on the internet sometimes, nobody is. The internet is a weird simulation which is causing issues in real society across the globe all the time. It's not real life, it's a machine-assisted facsimile of it. John Brawley and I would not have behaved the same in real life. The internet is an argument generator and a distorted mirror and I might indeed have to shortly go to the pub and have a stiff drink. Robert Collins, noplz, webrunner5 and 15 others 11 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted September 10, 2018 I could answer that, but still haven't tried one dslnc, webrunner5, ND64 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Oh dear, pity pity Danny boy. Dan's upset! DAN'S UPSET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted September 10, 2018 Thank you for your cutting edge satire, very original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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