jonpais Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Looks fine to me. I don’t care about motion cadence, bcz I can’t see it unless shutter angle is off by a lot - and it’s impossible to judge on 99% of monitors and televisions anyhow, ‘cause they’re not true 24p anyhow. hehe That said, I like me some slo mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, A_Urquhart said: It's entitled 'Lowlight' so wasn't shot to judge motion cadence. Saying that, there are plenty of shots in there that aren't slow and they look good to me. Well that may be true, but I'm sure everyone is also interested in highlight roll off, skin tones, dynamic range, colors... as well as looking out for the infamous black sun. I've already decided to purchase this camera... but always nice to see footage while waiting the next few weeks to months for the cameras to start shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Does anyone know of a dtap cable that'll work with this camera? Or a cable to go from 7.2V/5.5mm Pole-tap DC output to the P4K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Uses a 2-Pin LEMO connection, which needs at least 12V I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 19, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: Does anyone know of a dtap cable that'll work with this camera? Or a cable to go from 7.2V/5.5mm Pole-tap DC output to the P4K? BM have a DC cable pack for it for $55 https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78804 Anaconda_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 So nice you said it twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzzxx Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 That lowlight footage still has way too much midtone detail for my taste (look at her pores), but that's something that's adjustable in post with this much data. It's just a shame they haven't managed to get it like that 'out of camera'. Still a great deal though. Kieran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, seanzzxx said: That lowlight footage still has way too much midtone detail for my taste (look at her pores), but that's something that's adjustable in post with this much data. It's just a shame they haven't managed to get it like that 'out of camera'. Still a great deal though. According to the description, he added midtone detail. Also, RAW looks quite harsh out of this camera and has moire as well as aliasing. ProRes looks way cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzzxx Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, deezid said: According to the description, he added midtone detail. Also, RAW looks quite harsh out of this camera and has moire as well as aliasing. ProRes looks way cleaner. I don't know if he added midtone detail ... sounds more like he raised the level of the midtones from that description? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyrlyn Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 This footage is absolutely stunning and convincing. Waiting for more low light footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, seanzzxx said: That lowlight footage still has way too much midtone detail for my taste (look at her pores), but that's something that's adjustable in post with this much data. It's just a shame they haven't managed to get it like that 'out of camera'. Still a great deal though. Is there a fast way to do this in resolve, like with a slider, and not masking shit out? If so how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzzxx Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 You could qualify the face, add a tiny bit of blur and then add some grain to the whole picture - that's most succesful in my limited experience. You could of course just add a fraction of blur to the whole image and then you wouldn't have to add the masking step, but 1) qualifying (maybe add a large mask) a face is super easy and quick, and 2) without a qualifier it will probably look less subtle because it affects the whole image. EDIT: If other people have tips and tricks for making footage less sharp and more 'creamy' I'd love to know it, always looking for that with non-Ursa footage. Kieran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuff Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, seanzzxx said: EDIT: If other people have tips and tricks for making footage less sharp and more 'creamy' I'd love to know it, always looking for that with non-Ursa footage. Vintage glass (Leica R) with diffusion filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzzxx Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I personally think most diffusion filters look kinda cheesy (especially the highlight bloom), would you have any good tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuff Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 It depends what kind of image you like, see samples and choose the best for your taste. Stills from the video: http://katelynrebelo.com/filter-test seanzzxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, seanzzxx said: I personally think most diffusion filters look kinda cheesy (especially the highlight bloom), would you have any good tips? There are different types with different looks. The popular 'black pro mist' has some bloom and contrast reduction. But the Tiffen digital diffusion with no contrast reduction or bloom, and the ultra contrast is no diffusion, just contrast reduction, no bloom. The Tiffen hdfx combines those last two for both diffusion and contrast reduction without bloom. There are of course many more options but those are the ones I currently use. My favourite (for now) is a Tiffen HDTV (sometimes called hdfx) at 1/2 strength. I use it on Nikon ais lenses for when a softer filmy look is what I'm after. I just used one on a Fuji xh1 and (mostly) Nikon ais 35mm 1.4 on a speed booster for part of a short film. I'll see if I can get a screen grab together seanzzxx, hansel and Adept 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 So I just got some C.Fast 2.0 cards - I want to be able to record ProRes HQ, so even if Braw can go straight to SDs I needed these anyway... Anyway, a while ago I asked if C.Fast 2.0 cards can be read by C.fast 1.0 readers. It turns out they can! Because of this, I imagine then that C.Fast 1.0 cards can be used in this camera for lower bitrate recordings and possibly Braw too. So for those of you, like me, who have the Atomos Ninja Star, dig 'em out, stick the card in the P4K and forget about it, have it ready for emergencies! Also, for those wondering, here's a speedtest of the Integral Ultima proX2 CFast 2.0 card. On the sticker, it says 'up to 550mb/s read 540mb/s write' so either they've over estimated or my Atomos CFast reader is creating a bottleneck. It's a USB 3.0 reader. Either way though, I can still get those ProRes HQ recordings in 60fps, so I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 19, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've got one of these on order The Cfast card and the SSD can be read and written to simultaneously so its a good solution for archiving and cheap at about £15. I'm going to use this as part of a DIY portable standalone field copy device that I mentioned a while ago. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0777958WY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_95LOBbR957CN5 Snuff and hansel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 It just needs a 'backup now' button to dump form the CFast to the SSD/HDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Todu Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The fact that Andrew hasn't posted anything about Blackmagic RAW is very telling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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