AaronChicago Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Dan Keeble said: wish he used the new BMD Extended v4 LUT It's so great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 One of the best things about getting a P4k from CVP is the fun one can have dissolving all the packaging bits (like tasteless Wotsits for those who know such things). In a 8Sinn cage it’s certainly quite large - just searched my wardrobe and definitely don’t have a suitably sized pocket. Right... initial review done so I’ll attach a lens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 28, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, Snowfun said: Just searched my wardrobe and definitely don’t have a suitably sized pocket. You're clearly not searching hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, Snowfun said: One of the best things about getting a P4k from CVP is the fun one can have dissolving all the packaging bits (like tasteless Wotsits for those who know such things). In a 8Sinn cage it’s certainly quite large - just searched my wardrobe and definitely don’t have a suitably sized pocket. Right... initial review done so I’ll attach a lens... Which 8sin did you get? I’m looking at the half cafe with Scorpio handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, Turboguard said: Which 8sin did you get? I’m looking at the half cafe with Scorpio handle. The full one but without a handle. It provides good all round protection and sufficient bits to grip (albeit with the handle that’s not so important). The three function buttons are not as convenient (given the cage) as they might be but I suppose it’ll just take some getting used to. I do have nato rail handles so will probably fit one. The menu system is fabulous. 46 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: You're clearly not searching hard enough. Nowhere near big enough! Did you see what Jim (yes, that Jim) has done for the titanium Hydrogen preorders? Now that is a “big pocket with long arms”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Newway12 said: Hardly, a pocket 4K probably won’t cost more then 4000$ fully tricked out with every possible accessory. I never said it wold cost more, it will be damn near as big. This is suppose to be a POCKET camera, not a Cinema Scope camera. And for 4 grand you can buy a real Cine camera used. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 9 hours ago, jonpais said: a comparison between the Pocket 4K, Arri Alexa and GH5. (mostly for skin tones, dynamic range) He had another video saying how he wouldn't review the eos r. I think after seeing how bad he missed focus here he might want to give that another thought. The skintones for the gh5 look pretty bad imo. Not sure if it was because of the LUT he was using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 28, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, Snowfun said: Did you see what Jim (yes, that Jim) has done for the titanium Hydrogen preorders? Now that is a “big pocket with long arms”. Wow. Now you've got TWO phones they haven't delivered on time Snowfun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocelyn Deguise Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 12 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Hell by the time you put a battery grip, a SSD, a mike, a cage, ND filters, oh and you Need a Gimbal because it has no IBIS, a wireless focus controller because it has no continuous AF, you might as well carry around a Arri Alexa! Yeah, right. And since they're about the same price, that seems like a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jocelyn Deguise said: Yeah, right. And since they're about the same price, that seems like a no-brainer. Where the hell did I say Anything about a price? It is about the size! Price is irreverent. If I was rich, I kind of used to be, even a Arri Alexa LF wouldn't cost me shit for money compared to what I make. You act like everyone is poor as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Yurolov said: He had another video saying how he wouldn't review the eos r. I think after seeing how bad he missed focus here he might want to give that another thought. The skintones for the gh5 look pretty bad imo. Not sure if it was because of the LUT he was using. The GH5 is crippled when shot in V-LOG and the standard Panasonic LUT as it's designed for the varicam and not the GH5. Better to use HLG and Resolve color management to convert to REC709 (with all 3 cameras infact). I'm also not sure how relevant 3 stops under and over are to real world shooting as I doubt even the most cack-handed operator would get exposures this wrong but at least it proves what you pay for with the Alexa. It kind of confirms what I though though that the GH5 is not going to be significantly out performed by the P4k as long as you expose and WB it correctly and use the 10 bit 4.2.2 codec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Shirozina said: as long as you expose and WB it correctly and use the 10 bit 4.2.2 codec. LoL, that could apply to a whole hell of a lot of cameras that are out now, and have been out for 5 years or more. Camera operator skill.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, webrunner5 said: LoL, that could apply to a whole hell of a lot of cameras that are out now, and have been out for 5 years. ? It does tend to bring out the best in any camera........ webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/pocket-cinema-camera-4k-european-launch-event-registration-50396784138 Today directly from my email inbox: To the European Launch of the new Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K! Join us and the Blackmagic team in London on Wednesday, October 10th to mark the introduction of the new Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. You will see the first projects shot with the camera, meet the filmmakers and get some hands-on time, as well as a night of music, food and drinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 oooh can anyone attend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 From my experience with the Blackmagic Cinema Camera and color temperature, I found the BMCC looks better in daylight 5600k lighting rather than 3200k tungsten. I have read that this is the case with most modern sensors - they are optimized light sources closer to Daylight than tungsten. I am thankfully for the test being done, but shooting in daylight may have been a better light source for real world comparison sake. It would be nice to have seen the GH5 with GHAlex LUT. I saw the comment about using the version 4 color science with the Pocket the would be welcome as well. Adding these refinements and BRAW sensor output tuning (when available) and we may see that the Pocket 4k will be more competitive in the skin tone category against the Alexa. This test shows the potential but not the final image that can be had from the Pocket 4k pending BRAW and version 4 colors science is applied under Daylight conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 This is true, unless you use an IR filter. The Rawlite OLPF has a built in IR cut that makes tungsten light look just as pleasing/accurate as daylight. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 @AaronChicago Great to know! I never thought of using and IR to fixed the look of the BMCC with tungsten - I will have to try that - thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimor Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Goose said: oooh can anyone attend? Read the small print: "Anyone can attend except those called Andrew Reid..." ?? webrunner5, Kieran and wyrlyn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I just read on the BM forums that CVP only had 1 camera delivered to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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