Slothorp Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 You can lose information in the highlights, prores or RAW, once it is overexposed. But with the red channel, it clips without white creamy halo. The RAW post-processing allows you to bring down the saturation and give a highlight roll off. But if you do the same in prores, other parts of your image are going to be desaturated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TILT Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, photographer-at-large said: Would you know if the Canon version works this way as well? I think it's the same on any Viltrox Adpaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 So they released the list of cards, drives that are officially supported: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/ And I find it interesting that they say that the Samsung T5 does different flavors of RAW depending on size, like the 500Gb can not do as much as the 1Tb. Anyone understands why? I might go ahead and get those Sony SDs 128Gb. So expensive but I've decided to go with SD for on the run and T5 for actual projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, TILT said: I think it's the same on any Viltrox Adpaters. The viltrox doesnt have a lock screw as the threads are greased so you just adjust and it stays put. You can put some grease ( damping grease) in the metabones to do the same and do away with the lock screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slothorp Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Attached you can find some dng files taken from the test. And in the link below, you can download the same test but shot in prores. A002_10130258_C022_000225.dng Blue 400 iso.dng blue 3200 iso.dng red 400 iso.dng red 3200 iso.dng deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcode Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Slothorp said: Attached you can find some dng files taken from the test. And in the link below, you can download the same test but shot in prores. A002_10130258_C022_000225.dng Blue 400 iso.dng blue 3200 iso.dng red 400 iso.dng red 3200 iso.dng Thank you very much. It's a processing error just like with sony footage. Switch to bmdfilm log and gamut on the raw tab, and add a gamut mapping node to convert it to rec709 with saturation and luma knee. The color will roll-off perfectly fine in all of the examples. But. With v3 colorscience (i have resolve 14) the hue is shifted from red to orange. Strange. Maybe v4 is more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slothorp Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 the saturation mapping works well for the RAW files. But with a prores file, it tends to slightly desaturate other parts of the image, including colors that are part of the skin tones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Giberti Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 FWIW, especially shooting in ProRes, I'd avoid shooting in Extended Video. I did extensive testing with EV vs Film log and there's no reason to take the hit on DR...especially baking it in. Monitor in EV if you like while shooting FIlm and then it's simply one step to apply EV in post which will look identical on scopes to EV in camera but with the latitide to get the full DR of the new camera. Also, when shooting ProRes I don't bother with Resolve as FCPX is optimized for it and really fast - even UHD, even on a MB pro. Also, if using the EV LUT in FCPX, I've found dialing in to around 30% after balancing initially with the scopes is the sweet spot. tekeela and Turboguard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slothorp Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I agree with you that it's better to shoot in film log. But it's also a fact that the red clipping takes away the possibility of shooting in prores with a baked lut in certain situations, which should not be. And the only way to avoid the problem in prores, even if you shoot in film log, is to use resolve. You can't simply ingest your file in your favorite Nle, such as FCPX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Giberti Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Not referring to the red clipping. Just offering general advice regarding shooting in EV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 How much more Dynamic range do you get in RAW vs Prores? I am kinda debating on whether to get the original BMPCC or the 4k version. Any advantages if I'll only be shooting in 1080p 30p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbCinC_12 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Jonesy Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Does Anyone shoot Anything in normal speeds anymore? Jesus what is the deal with trying to see if Anything is worth a crap on a camera at 120p Slo Mo. Sam Peckinpah is alive and well. DBounce, TurboRat, jbCinC_12 and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbCinC_12 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: Does Anyone shoot Anything in normal speeds anymore? Jesus what is the deal with trying to see if Anything is worth a crap on a camera at 120p Slo Mo. Sam Peckinpah is alive and well. My feelings exactly. The 60/120p slow-mo is cool and all, but what about the 24p, 30p? How about showing what it offers in 1080p. One can only hope. webrunner5 and DBounce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted October 17, 2018 Super Members Share Posted October 17, 2018 The trapped battery reports on BMC User are quite disturbing. On the other hand, one of the people that it has happened to got his camera from CVP, which means they have at least shipped another one other than @Snowfun 's one so I'm now one further up the list. So, swings and roundabouts and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRat Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Does Anyone shoot Anything in normal speeds anymore? Jesus what is the deal with trying to see if Anything is worth a crap on a camera at 120p Slo Mo. Sam Peckinpah is alive and well. It's 'cinematic' ? But seriously, it helps smoothen the camera movement especially if you're just moving around the camera with no goal but yeah, slo mo has been the default for travel vids, wedding, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, BTM_Pix said: The trapped battery reports on BMC User are quite disturbing. On the other hand, one of the people that it has happened to got his camera from CVP, which means they have at least shipped another one other than @Snowfun 's one so I'm now one further up the list. So, swings and roundabouts and all that. My batteries pop in and out easily enough. I get enough practice... BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocelyn Deguise Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: How much more Dynamic range do you get in RAW vs Prores? I am kinda debating on whether to get the original BMPCC or the 4k version. Any advantages if I'll only be shooting in 1080p 30p? The original pocket was really really bad in low light and battery life was terrible. I can't see any advantages. 6 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Does Anyone shoot Anything in normal speeds anymore? Jesus what is the deal with trying to see if Anything is worth a crap on a camera at 120p Slo Mo. Sam Peckinpah is alive and well. It's a trend that should die. Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuff Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 38 Seconds of footage from the Pocket 4K. Just initial test. Will have a lot more soon! I will make this private in a bit but it's for those that wanted a bit of footage from Day 1. I'm not fan of the shakiness since we didn't have the appropriate gear, nor did we have the Wireless FF. DNG 3:1. 24fps and 60/24fps, there’s some light DNR on some of the clips. Sigma 18-35mm Nikon with a Hoya ProND 8 (I put this on and forgot I had it on for the whole duration). Viltrox Nikon to m43 version. Ronin-S. 4th Axis Stabilizer (Didn’t know how to set the tension at this point, next clips will be better!). Light warp on the beach clips. deezid, tonysss and webrunner5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Out of likes. Wow that is some pretty serious DR! Great footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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