helium Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, Álex Montoya said: So the Pocket 4K fares 11.6 stops @iso400 by Cinema 5D's strict methodology, almost half a stop more than the old Pocket. That's pretty awesome. Where did this come from? They tested the original Pocket tested at around 12.5, which was consistent with other third party results, and the P4K hasn't been tested at all. Or has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuff Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Screens from the videoreview posted above. deezid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Snuff said: Screens from the videoreview posted above. Pretty impressive, since the other cameras do denoise the footage. Snuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysss Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Álex Montoya said: So the Pocket 4K fares 11.6 stops @iso400 by Cinema 5D's strict methodology, almost half a stop more than the old Pocket. That's pretty awesome. OT Pocket has 12,5 , it's about 1 stop more ? TurboRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRat Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, tonysss said: OT Pocket has 12,5 , it's about 1 stop more ? I don't know why, but shots from the og pocket looks better vs some of the P4K stuff online and other current cameras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, TurboRat said: I don't know why, but shots from the og pocket looks better vs some of the P4K stuff online and other current cameras That's because there's a whole lot more of it. More people have (or had) it than the new one, and they've been using it for quite a few years longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysss Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, TurboRat said: I don't know why, but shots from the og pocket looks better vs some of the P4K stuff online and other current cameras I see it anyway, we can also get great pictures with the new pocket. But my old pocket keeps me going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grex Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, tonysss said: OT Pocket has 12,5 , it's about 1 stop more ? According to their more strict tests (1/SNR=0.5, number in bold on the right) the OG pocket has 11.2 and P4K has 11.6. The pocket 4K has about half a stop more of dynamic range. tonysss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Film Convert have recently added a new profile for BMPCC 4K - so Philip Bloom can grade his review now. For those interested, here's a quick link to find it: https://www.filmconvert.com/download/camera-profile Juxx989 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 DR advantages are only useful if you can expose the footage accurately enough to exploit it and exp controls on the P4k are pretty basic (Even the GH5 has a waveform). I'd like to see an RGB parade display on the P4k..... deezid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 'The Camera Cage for Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K features a completely customizable, modular design. Fill out your camera cage as you see fit. An optional right side handle features a small finger wheel that can allow you to control the upcoming Nucleus Nano motor and also features an SSD card holder as well as a battery compartment for Sony F970 batteries to allow you to extend the battery life of your camera. More info and pre-order available soon.' greenscreen, wyrlyn, Kisaha and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grex Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, JordanWright said: 'The Camera Cage for Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K features a completely customizable, modular design. Fill out your camera cage as you see fit. An optional right side handle features a small finger wheel that can allow you to control the upcoming Nucleus Nano motor and also features an SSD card holder as well as a battery compartment for Sony F970 batteries to allow you to extend the battery life of your camera. More info and pre-order available soon.' This looks promising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 29, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 29, 2018 51 minutes ago, JordanWright said: 'The Camera Cage for Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K features a completely customizable, modular design. Fill out your camera cage as you see fit. An optional right side handle features a small finger wheel that can allow you to control the upcoming Nucleus Nano motor and also features an SSD card holder as well as a battery compartment for Sony F970 batteries to allow you to extend the battery life of your camera. More info and pre-order available soon.' That looks excellent. I thought I'd quote the post again right under to make people scroll through 6 huge images instead of 2. JordanWright and dslnc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, tonysss said: OT Pocket has 12,5 , it's about 1 stop more ? Watch the video. They rate the original BMPCC at 11.2 and the BMPCC 4K at 11.6. They appear to be using the lower more conservative set of values (SNR=.5) in the chart reproduced above. In any event, they state plainly that by their measurements, the P4K has more dynamic range. This is consistent with what most shooters, including this one, have discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 29, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, JordanWright said: 'The Camera Cage for Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K features a completely customizable, modular design. Fill out your camera cage as you see fit. An optional right side handle features a small finger wheel that can allow you to control the upcoming Nucleus Nano motor and also features an SSD card holder as well as a battery compartment for Sony F970 batteries to allow you to extend the battery life of your camera. More info and pre-order available soon.' I agree! Here are those pictures AGAIN! Maybe we can reach page 400 sooner than we think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 shooter and greenscreen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 29, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Emanuel said: Nice video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 And an interesting match... : -) greenscreen and shooter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted October 29, 2018 Super Members Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Shirozina said: DR advantages are only useful if you can expose the footage accurately enough to exploit it and exp controls on the P4k are pretty basic (Even the GH5 has a waveform). I'd like to see an RGB parade display on the P4k..... I agree that it would be nice to have additional tools but I have to say that I think that with Pocket 4K having false colour available (especially on a hardware switch) it will get a lot of people, myself included, closer to where they want the exposure to be a lot quicker. The very quick contextual overview it gives you works better - for me at least - than a waveform so I'm going to say that from a purely selfish point of view, BM chose the right option for the initial release Jonesy Jones and CaptainHook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 That Tilta pack looks awesome! I hope it will be affordable. Kinda sucks I just spent 400 bucks on a setup! Would love the nucleus N handle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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