Emanuel Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 From my own tests, practically as much as ISO6400, ISO1000 is a way noisier than ISO1250... Nonetheless, I still wouldn't say Dual ISO is 400/3200. AF warning: You need to test tap-to-focus with different lenses. I've found much distinct results from several native lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthere Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Long chat about the P4K with plenty of pauses for reading questions, but ultimately a good discussion about the positive aspects of cinema cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 https://www.provideocoalition.com/blackmagic-design-pocket-cinema-camera-4k-review/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matthere Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 37 minutes ago, Snuff said: What's the point in comparing a non focal reducer adapter with a focal reducer adapter? The Viltrox doesn't have any flocking on the internal surfaces ( just like the early version Metabones non focal reducer adapters) but it's a pretty easy job to add some. TurboRat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuff Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 From the description of the video: Quote I put the Viltrox EF-M1 (had to return my M2 for the same reason) to the test against the Metabones Speed Booster XL EF. The Viltrox adapters (M1 & M2) have been the talk of the town as of late as the internet has claimed that this adapter provides Metabones quality at a fraction of the price. I bought into this claim only to find out that both the Viltrox EF-M1 and Viltrox EF-M2 both have serious issues with flare. It boggles my mind how there can be so many reviews and no reports on this very serious degradation of image quality? I hope you find this video helpful and I'll catch you on the next one. *All clips were given the same Blackmagic v4 Extended Video LUT with no additional color correction/grading done to the image to maintain consistency throughout the test. Equipment: Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K Sigma Art 24-70mm f/2.8 Metabones T Speed Booster XL EF Viltros EF-M1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I haven't had any issues with flare with my M2 and I would have noticed this. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRat Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 No issue of flaring from mine or my buddy's Viltrox too. Take note that the guy used the Viltrox M1 on the vid. I don't know why he's pushing that the flares are on the Viltrox M2 On another note: Did you guys buy an external monitor for the P4K? We were on a shoot today trying out the P4k and wanted some low angle shots as well as an overhead shot but had a hard time doing it. Had to borrow a GH5s for those shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, TurboRat said: No issue of flaring from mine or my buddy's Viltrox too. Take note that the guy used the Viltrox M1 on the vid. I don't know why he's pushing that the flares are on the Viltrox M2 On another note: Did you guys buy an external monitor for the P4K? We were on a shoot today trying out the P4k and wanted some low angle shots as well as an overhead shot but had a hard time doing it. Had to borrow a GH5s for those shots Borrowing a monitor would be easier, than changing a whole camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, TurboRat said: On another note: Did you guys buy an external monitor for the P4K? We were on a shoot today trying out the P4k and wanted some low angle shots as well as an overhead shot but had a hard time doing it. Had to borrow a GH5s for those shots I've got the Ninja V - it works well but has some issues with the zebra accuracy ( see my other post) TurboRat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRat Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kisaha said: Borrowing a monitor would be easier, than changing a whole camera. Yeah but no one had an external monitor nearby or a rental shop nearby. Time is essential and good thing someone know somebody who has a Panasonic nearby. I have a Ninja Inferno though but didnt bring them because I was unaware of the shots needed (was just bought in for consultation). Didnt check though if the P4k has an app that can work as a 2nd monitor like in other cameras. Also would have been more helpful if the screen had a little bit of tilt, not necessarily full 180. Anyway, it was just for quickly testing out the P4K for additional B-roll shots and realized there's still some stuff to be bought for those situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, TurboRat said: Yeah but no one had an external monitor nearby or a rental shop nearby. Time is essential and good thing someone know somebody who has a Panasonic nearby. I have a Ninja Inferno though but didnt bring them because I was unaware of the shots needed (was just bought in for consultation). Didnt check though if the P4k has an app that can work as a 2nd monitor like in other cameras. Also would have been more helpful if the screen had a little bit of tilt, not necessarily full 180. Anyway, it was just for quickly testing out the P4K for additional B-roll shots and realized there's still some stuff to be bought for those situations Yep, a monitor is a must for many reasons. This camera can be used as it is, but most times it will need additional accessories. I will always suggest a SmallHD Focus, smallest and brightest solution. If you do not care about brightness, one of the cheap 5.5" copy cats will do. MurtlandPhoto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Hey guys, I’m shooting some interviews at the moment and have my T5 and an SD card in. But I only see the SSD. Why? Also, first time recording with microphone through the mini XLR input, I am NOT using phantom power at the moment but I have SUPER CLEAR audio. I’m monitoring with noise cancelling headphones. But yeah, I know someone earlier had problems with the input. I’ll try with phantom when we’re not shooting for the client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 @Turboguard No idea. I guess it is because the 2nd one is reserved for either SD or SSD though? : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Yes, SSD and SD use the same usable slot, which is annoying if you don't plan on using Cfast for anything. Maybe they'll change that in a firmware update. I was the one with Phantom power issues, but they have since (mostly) cleared up. I contacted BMD about it and they've said they haven't had any other complaints. After sending them some tests, I've been asked to send the camera back and they'll replace it within 10 days. I'm filming stuff that doesn't require in camera audio for the next week though, so I'll send it back after that. I think my camera just has some issues and it's not wide spread thing. dslnc, Turboguard and thephoenix 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysss Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, matthere said: Thank you ,the world needs new stories and not new cameras ? webrunner5, Emanuel and matthere 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, tonysss said: Thank you ,the world needs new stories and not new cameras ? The world needs less brown looking Black Magic Design footage. Flash backs to when nobody knew you needed an IR cut filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BenEricson said: The world needs less brown looking Black Magic Design footage. Flash backs to when nobody knew you needed an IR cut filter. To be fair, it is hard to avoid strong brown tones when filming the seafront of Weston-Super-Mud Emanuel and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Would be hard to tell the two cameras apart if they were not side by side. I sort of like the SSD solution of the BMCC over the new PK4. But you can buy the PK4 used for probably the same price. I would take the PK4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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