Snowfun Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 5 hours ago, webrunner5 said: But new adventures good or bad ahead. At least it is not boring, which it had become. I admire the courage & hope your adventure takes you to where you want to go ! webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, deezid said: Not that the P4K looks bad, but these sharpening halos (easiliy visible in the thumbnail around the jacket even) make the P4K look way less organic than the original BMCC. Was shot in either ProRes or Braw. Cdng doesn't show any of these internal processing issues when sharpening in Resolve is set to 0. Still wondering why BMD joined Panasonic, Sony, Canon (since EOS R) etc... I don't see any 'sharpening halos' on this video or my own BRAW footage - can you post some samples to show this please? 6 hours ago, anonim said: It might be a nice occasion to compare results of two generations of BM cameras from the same master's DP signature. For me, very hard to judge... What's with the cyan cast on the 2nd video? Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Jimothy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Shirozina said: I don't see any 'sharpening halos' on this video or my own BRAW footage - can you post some samples to show this please? What's with the cyan cast on the 2nd video? Yeah, I really don't care for the grading on the 2nd video personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 hours ago, anonim said: It might be a nice occasion to compare results of two generations of BM cameras from the same master's DP signature. For me, very hard to judge... Great... How did he put the MK lenses on the P4K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Maybe beta tester for https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436743-REG/fujinon_mk18_55mm_t2_9_m4_3_mk_18_55mm_t2_9_lens.html Although Filippo Chiesa earlier wrote that conversion was two minutes task to acomplish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, anonim said: Maybe beta tester for https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436743-REG/fujinon_mk18_55mm_t2_9_m4_3_mk_18_55mm_t2_9_lens.html Although Filippo Chiesa earlier wrote that conversion was two minutes task to acomplish... Whaaaaat??!!!! I totally missed this type of info. "The Fujinon MK18-55mm T2.9 Lens is a lightweight cine-style zoom lens for MFT mount cameras with a Super 35mm-sized sensor." What that even means??!! The only MFT S35 camera is the JVC LS300.. I am in the process of ordering the EF Samyangs anyway, the 24/35/50/85 kit + the 16mm = 1000less € than the MK 18-55, which admittedly is a better solution.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Both Duclos and MTF services offer conversion kits for the MK lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Kisaha said: Whaaaaat??!!!! I totally missed this type of info. "The Fujinon MK18-55mm T2.9 Lens is a lightweight cine-style zoom lens for MFT mount cameras with a Super 35mm-sized sensor." What that even means??!! The only MFT S35 camera is the JVC LS300. Z cam guys & gals are almost ready to introduce a new one these days... ; -) Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Yeah they turned a unique, pure look into a mainstream look. Crazy long term plan to me? What, is every camera suppose to look like a Canon? It is nice for wedding, portrait stuff, but for filming shorts, indie stuff, nah. That stuff is suppose to have a bite to it, gritty, right in your face stuff. Not Marie Osmond looking. And that is what to me the PK4 looks like. Pure as the driven snow. WTF. Thanks, it seems to me worth noting - exceptional, yet simple formulation of one point of view valuable for rethinking (being it with or without foundation): unquestionable distinctiveness as quality. I also took a glance to see who is Marie Osmond :) webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 If you are not happy with .braw, nothing holds you to go back to CinemaDNG. As simple as that. Well, perhaps only double tap for new update features, you'll probably never use anyway, that's all. You're also comparing 1080p to 4K, that's your beef on your Apples to Oranges approach and you any naysayer(s) tend to ignore or forget that : ) Moreover, there's no SOC ever at big screen. Big boys such as ARRIs and co included. Post is your friend to help you out with any of your mantra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, anonim said: Thanks, it seems to me worth noting - exceptional, yet simple formulation of one point of view valuable for rethinking (being it with or without foundation): unquestionable distinctiveness as quality. I also took a glance to see who is Marie Osmond :) I am glad you are more educated as of now. She is the definition of squeaky clean. Nothing wrong with that but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 15 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Doesn't seem like may have a clue how to grade it. I will say it looks nicer than ProRes out of the PK4. Maybe people are just going to have to learn it better. It looks basically exactly the same lol Same fringing same sharpening halos same noise reduction 15 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: You sure its not processing rather than the codec itself? Since the ARRI Alexa doesn't have sharpening halos when shooting ProRes, nor my exported ProRes footage does and Braw and ProRes on this camera look exactly the same on the P4K I really don't think so. 4 hours ago, Emanuel said: If you are not happy with .braw, nothing holds you to go back to CinemaDNG. As simple as that. Well, perhaps only double tap for new update features, you'll probably never use anyway, that's all. Really didn't switch from the GH5 to the P4K for BMD to apply even more noise reduction aka texture reducer than Panasonic... Jonesy Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, deezid said: It looks basically exactly the same lol Same fringing same sharpening halos same noise reduction Again show us this in your footage as I'm just not seeing it in mine. OK at 600% I can see a bit of color aliasing but apart from that for a 1:1 sampling sensor it's remarkably clean. Resolve can have some unpleasant image display artefacts under some of the user options for playback settings where you can trade playback speed for quality but I guess you know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Shirozina said: Again show us this in your footage as I'm just not seeing it in mine. OK at 600% I can see a bit of color aliasing but apart from that (...) Not even present on CinemaDNG, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, deezid said: It looks basically exactly the same lol Same fringing same sharpening halos same noise reduction Since the ARRI Alexa doesn't have sharpening halos when shooting ProRes, nor my exported ProRes footage does and Braw and ProRes on this camera look exactly the same on the P4K I really don't think so. Really didn't switch from the GH5 to the P4K for BMD to apply even more noise reduction aka texture reducer than Panasonic... Do you own the pocket? I was implying maybe the person sharpened it in post. I don't know though I don't have an eye for spotting this type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Question for you guys - Anyone have any problems getting focus peaking (i.e. focus assist) working? I have it set to High and tried both colored lines and peaking and don't see anything. Under Monitor, I have Focus Assist turned On for LCD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Disregard. I was able to get it working by moving into better lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Emanuel said: Not even present on CinemaDNG, so... Sorry I don't understand your comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Shirozina said: Sorry I don't understand your comment? Any artifacts come from the codec or the way it is implemented if they are not visible going with the CinemaDNG, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novim Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 7 hours ago, MeanRevert said: Question for you guys - Anyone have any problems getting focus peaking (i.e. focus assist) working? I have it set to High and tried both colored lines and peaking and don't see anything. Under Monitor, I have Focus Assist turned On for LCD. It needs a pretty strong contrast to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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