kye Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, tonysss said: Orig. Pocket with orig.Nikon battery = 50min-60min. If i imagine BMPCC4K with NP970, i'm glad i have a real POCKET! ? with 2x stabilized lens and mic, and still in the palm of your hand... Setups that are larger and more complicated definitely have their downsides, that's for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I don't get 50-60 minutes on my pocket. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysss Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 the best documentary shots I do when my camera can't be seen. wyrlyn and kye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 16, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 16, 2019 A001_06201947_MOD.mp4 Andrew Reid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 17, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2019 Snappy! BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Snappy! Continuously so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Not sure what I'm looking at in BTM Pix's post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, MeanRevert said: Not sure what I'm looking at in BTM Pix's post? Sorry, it was a bit naughty of me just putting that up like that with no explanation. If we told you what it is though, you might not actually believe it We will do in a week or so though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: Sorry, it was a bit naughty of me just putting that up like that with no explanation. If we told you what it is though, you might not actually believe it We will do in a week or so though. Man, you are such a tease! ? The ghost of squig, Geoff_L and BTM_Pix 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of squig Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 When is somebody going to make a decent loupe for this camera? I got the cheap Australian one from eBay, it’s not great, but better than nothing. BMD should make a loupe. One of the things I like about the Sigma FP is Sigma is making the essential accessories for it. It’s been over a year since the P4K was launched at NAB and we still can’t get a high quality loupe or a P4K specific speed booster. ? thephoenix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, The ghost of squig said: When is somebody going to make a decent loupe for this camera? I got the cheap Australian one from eBay, it’s not great, but better than nothing. BMD should make a loupe. One of the things I like about the Sigma FP is Sigma is making the essential accessories for it. It’s been over a year since the P4K was launched at NAB and we still can’t get a high quality loupe or a P4K specific speed booster. ? The Grid one for the BMCC and RED LCD etc works with it At $241 its not cheap though unfortunately. https://www.gridaccessories.com/products/grid-5-0-viewfinder/ Hoodman do a riser to let their 3" loupe be used on a 4" LCD and I seem to recall someone made a 3D printable version based on that idea to attach to a 5". I think I made a note of it somewhere and can track it down if you're interested ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 hours ago, MeanRevert said: Not sure what I'm looking at in BTM Pix's post? It's a POV cam from someone stuck inside working on a follow-focus who really wants to go outside... with ADHD. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, kye said: It's a POV cam from someone stuck inside working on a follow-focus who really wants to go outside... with ADHD. If you reverse the order of a couple of words in that sentence you may be on to something. kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drm Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 8:55 AM, drm said: I used the P4Ks all day yesterday at a shoot where I was regularly going from outside in direct sunlight, to shady areas, then to indoor areas with varying light. If you plan to use the P4K in a quickly moving shoot, I **strongly** encourage you to mount an external daylight-viewable monitor to your P4K. The screen on the P4K works great, unless you are in direct sunlight. In direct sunlight, it is basically unusable. I mounted my SmallHD 5" monitor on top to help, but even that wasn't really bright enough. I could have used one of my 7" Ninja Infernos, but they are kinda big when going handheld. I prefer a 5" monitor unless I am on a tripod. I think that I am going to buy the 2200nit Feelworld monitor and try it, just for kicks (it is a 7", but it is light). I could pick up the Atomos Shinobi, but I need HDMI in and out. So, for all of you planning to use the P4K in sunlight, you will have to find shade regularly to review your shots, or pick up a bright external monitor. Happy shooting! After my bright sunlight shoot the other day, I went looking for a brighter portable monitor. I just received the Feelworld 279S monitor (2200nit). It was on sale at Amazon for Primeday for less than $280 for the SDI/HDMI version. This monitor really is viewable in direct sunlight. I have only played with it for a few hours, but this appears to be a pretty decent monitor, particularly for the price. It is fairly well built, but there is a lot of plastic (as you would imagine for the price). As long as you don't drop it, I think it will be fine. There is only a 1/4" mount on the bottom, not the sides or top, so be aware of that when thinking about mounting options. It also only has two function buttons, like for histogram & false color, but you can customize them to your preferred function. I think that people will have to be careful judging exposure just by looking at the monitor since it is so bright. It does have several exposure tools like false color, histogram, & zebras, so that will help you get exposure right (I didn't see waveforms). I suspect that I would really like the new Atomos Shinobi (I have Ninja Infernos), but I need HDMI in & out. I am going to place this in my workflow and see how it goes. This is an interesting new toy. This is a terrible photo that I snapped with my phone that shows you a little bit about how the monitor compares to the monitor in the P4K. The P4K monitor is a little better than it looks in the image if you move around to get an angle with less glare. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Wow that is a Huge difference. Grats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHubbins Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/13/2019 at 9:30 AM, MeanRevert said: Jordan, I think you are the yoga king if that non-tiltable, non-movable screen doesn't bother you, my friend. As the former owner of a GH5, I must say, the tiltable screen was not very usable for me. 1) When you tilt it, the sun reflects directly off of it, so it's unviewable. 2) To tilt it up, you have to flip it out, and when you do that, it makes reaching the lens focus ring with your left hand almost impossible. You have to go under the camera, which is extremely awkward. I would have much preferred the Sony design, where it tilts without swinging out. The screen was a big factor in me buying the GH5, and I was wildly disappointed. billdoubleu and JordanWright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drm Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I just noticed this new sun hood from Smallrig in case people haven't seen it: https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-sun-hood-for-bmpcc-4k-2299.html It looks like $28 with a ship date of late August. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, StHubbins said: As the former owner of a GH5, I must say, the tiltable screen was not very usable for me. 1) When you tilt it, the sun reflects directly off of it, so it's unviewable. 2) To tilt it up, you have to flip it out, and when you do that, it makes reaching the lens focus ring with your left hand almost impossible. You have to go under the camera, which is extremely awkward. I would have much preferred the Sony design, where it tilts without swinging out. The screen was a big factor in me buying the GH5, and I was wildly disappointed. I think screens are an impossible challenge. You either build it so it tilts up and down or so that it flips out and then tilts. There are pros and cons to both designs, and neither design helps that much in bright sunlight. I've had times when the flippy screen on the GH5 was a PITA because I wanted to tilt it up but didn't want to basically double the width of the camera. Other times I've appreciated the fact I could angle the screen more than facing directly up or down, and occasionally I've used it in selfie-mode. I also routinely use the EVF because it's not bright enough for full sun. At our current level of technology it's basically an unsolvable problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, kye said: I think screens are an impossible challenge. You either build it so it tilts up and down or so that it flips out and then tilts. There are pros and cons to both designs, and neither design helps that much in bright sunlight. I've had times when the flippy screen on the GH5 was a PITA because I wanted to tilt it up but didn't want to basically double the width of the camera. Other times I've appreciated the fact I could angle the screen more than facing directly up or down, and occasionally I've used it in selfie-mode. I also routinely use the EVF because it's not bright enough for full sun. I am 100% fun of the tilt up and down design. You can work high or low and maintain a very good balance to work with. For me that is solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 18, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 18, 2019 I've probably said it before but whoever makes an HDMI input version of this tiltable EVF will make a fortune. mercer, photographer-at-large, Jonesy Jones and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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