blackrat Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Andrew about your footage...what was the sizxe of the overall RAW files? I read about 7MB per frame for 1920x1080 RAW this would equal to 10GB per minute :| Nope you are making it two times too scary :) . It's about 3.5MB and around 4.4GB per minute. Still yikes of course though. sandro and tungah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapist Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 a shop we donte need nose analogue shops dis is the intranet generacion innit canon shops for losers shops for old peeple 2 get dere milk and sliced bread. what der fat geezer at black magic gives like the red fella is bee leafs obama hopium of a betta world just around der corner. lovely jubbly vapour rare looks so real on der computer screen you can almost smell it and touch it. jpeg porn for der kids. red and black magic say dat this canon thing is not real and if it is will explode any second. i beleefs dem as scotty said in dat new shit star wars filum captin der system it cannot take der data pressure shes gonna fuckin blow. you stick to yer buy it now shops we will take der hopium and beleefs vapour ware is der future and beyond. wtf? matt2491 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike007 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Needless to say, it looks extremely good. :) Yet, the workflow is for huber geeks only and I'm afraid it will stay too geeky for long time, plus reliability will always be a concern. Unless there will be developments that will make an hacked 5d3 practical to work with, I would use it, only on tests, my own training and personal shooting that does not involve any production costs or involvement of other people time. The new Black Magic with the super 35 sensor will always be a more practical solution. And if time has a value to any of you guys, on the long run BM would also be a less expensive solution as well. BTW, I'm pretty sure canon knew this was going to happens, and they will be very happy to sell more of these cameras and not having to bother to honor any warranty. Plus it will hardly put a dent on the other Canon expensive camera sales. Who can afford them, have not time to bother with these hacked thingies. Chrad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrat Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 wtf? +1 indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt2491 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Like I said in the other thread: wut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtinMinorKey Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 +1 indeed Tony Wilson is a very special visitor. As you can see he has posted before, and apparently speaks his own dialect. I think what he is saying is, "whatever makes you happy, makes you happy. So believe what you want to believe, because everything is an illusion." mtheory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Lee Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 If HDMI becomes possible, or an implementation of something like FFV1 lossless compression to half the data rate for a bit longer record time. (3 minutes would be epic). Something like Motion JPEG 2000 as well for 1:5 (or even 1:10) or similar compression would be able to reduce the data rate enough for 3.6K, though in a 2.35 ratio rather than 2.7. If there's enough processor power though that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedipax Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Tony Wilson has probably forgotten more about cameras and lenses than any of us will ever know. Do yourself a favor and take a minute to really grapple with what he's saying. Of course he has a sense of humor too. HurtinMinorKey, jgharding, Sean Cunningham and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahua Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Check out my test from yesterday. Sorry it's all handheld footage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Nahua, I'm always envious of you when I see your footage. That is some luscious green scenery and beautiful Hawaiian sunset. It's nice to be able to enjoy them both at the same time! nahua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapist Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Tony Wilson has probably forgotten more about cameras and lenses than any of us will ever know. Do yourself a favor and take a minute to really grapple with what he's saying. Of course he has a sense of humor too. Try grappling everything he is saying. this is wonderful. http://www.eoshd.com/comments/user/14314-tony-wilson/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowsof White Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I'd be extremely happy with 10 Bit Raw! Anything is better than the current 8 Bit 422 (with the new uncompressed hdmi update). Would it be possible? Why not team up with Atomos? The Ninja-2 is capable of recording 10Bit. Think of how much business this would give Atomos! Canon 5D Mark III + 10Bit Raw 4:2:2 + Atomos Ninja-2. What a combination! (An instant Blackmagic killer...) A possible dream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Butka Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 At 1920x1080 @ 24fps with a 1000x how long can you record till it drops frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Tansey Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wow, changes everything. I'm wondering, where is the limit to all of this? Does anyone know? In a couple of years time when 4000X CF cards might be available am I going to be able to get 3840x2160 raw video? At what point is write speed no longer the limiting factor? How about when 8000X cards are out? 5760x3240? possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Tanuwidjaja Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 hey Andrew, Great job! may i know what CF did you use for this raw footage? (speed and size) on cinema5d video, there's a glitch that occurred and they said it was happened inside the camera.. i know this is not the release version, but to make the most of it, can you recommend cf's writing speed that able to cope with the raw footage? btw WELL DONE ML TEAM!! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahua Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Nahua, I'm always envious of you when I see your footage. That is some luscious green scenery and beautiful Hawaiian sunset. It's nice to be able to enjoy them both at the same time! Thanks! Yeah it's just a hike away really. Weather was just perfect for a colorful sunset! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billputnamphoto Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Is there some technical reason why the raw images have to be written to the CF card when Canon just released firmware for the 5D3 that gives a clean HDMI output so that a Ninja or Hyperdeck Shuttle can be attached as SSDs are cheaper & larger capacity than 1000x CF cards. I was thinking the same. I have the Atomos on order and would love to run the footage to that instead of a CF card. Either way, I'm excited about this er development. Where do I spend my money ML? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronfya Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 At 1920x1080 @ 24fps with a 1000x how long can you record till it drops frames? THAT is actually a very good question ! Because all of this will be 90% useless if not long enough recording can be pulled on set for movies ... with actors waiting for the cam to cool down or something weird like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat1 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 How many movies are going to be using a hacked dslr? THAT is actually a very good question ! Because all of this will be 90% useless if not long enough recording can be pulled on set for movies ... with actors waiting for the cam to cool down or something weird like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Has anyone shot a test of the 720/50p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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