DirectorCH Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 As everyone knows the main recommendations for taking lenses for an anamorphic adaptor setup are generally the Helios 44-2 (58mm) and the Jupiter 9 (85mm) Since some anamorphic setups offer no vignetting between those two focal lengths I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for taking lenses that would fit between 58mm and 85mm that would be suitable to use for an anamorphic setup. Are there any good 65mm 70mm or more obscure focal lengths anyone has come across? In my search I found a possible vintage winner that is just a little wider then the typical 85mm: Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm f/2.8 Post suggestions below! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton.zimin@gmail.com Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Biometar is a very good lens. I use an MC version with ISCO. It has a nice bokeh and very sharp for its price. But it’s not easy to find one in a good condition. And I don’t recommend the zebra version. Also I had to change the grease on my lens. DirectorCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I LOVE my declicked Minolta Rokkor PG 58/1.2 EOS mount - Metabones 0.64XL Speedbooster - Bell & Howell Kowa 2X combo! I use the great Rapido anamorphic lens clamp V2. I have also used a Porst 55/1.2 in Pentax K mount. I would love to try a Leica R Summilux 80/1.4 Always wanted one... DirectorCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorCH Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Nice input guys. @anton.zimin@gmail.com the Biometar looks really nice, its good to know it plays well with anamorphic. I wonder if there are any obscure focal lengths below 80mm in the high 60's to 70mm range. I remember reading somewhere that there was some nikkor that was 67mm or something like that. I can't remember where I read about it, and I can't find any more information about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorCH Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Found a 75mm Meyer-Optik that plays with anamorphics nicely, unfortunately it is not cheap! https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1297905-REG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Lomo OKC1-75-1 75mm F2 DirectorCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton.zimin@gmail.com Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Here you can find a lot: http://lens-club.ru/lenses/c_1427282.html It is all in Russian, but google translate can be helpful. It is a huge data-base of all lenses you could imagine. DirectorCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rax Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 biometar is nice but sharpness isn't top notch! lenses with small front element diameter are best for anamorphic use. its the reason everybody use helios 44s , j9 , etc. etc. DirectorCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 22 hours ago, DirectorCH said: As everyone knows the main recommendations for taking lenses for an anamorphic adaptor setup are generally the Helios 44-2 (58mm) and the Jupiter 9 (85mm) Since some anamorphic setups offer no vignetting between those two focal lengths I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for taking lenses that would fit between 58mm and 85mm that would be suitable to use for an anamorphic setup. Are there any good 65mm 70mm or more obscure focal lengths anyone has come across? In my search I found a possible vintage winner that is just a little wider then the typical 85mm: Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm f/2.8 Post suggestions below! I have experience with this lens used as taking lens: Tokina RMC 28-85 f4.0 zoom. Good things: don’t extend when focal lenght is changed (internal focus mechanism) same aperture all the way price Bad things: heavy and big very low on contrast and soft wide open (might be good thing, my reason to buy this lens was exactly this) I don’t know how many versions of this lens are around and how much those differs from each other. My version is with Canon FD mount. Here is short testclip that I shot entirely with this lens combined with Kowa 8Z: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorCH Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 @Teemu Fantastic stuff man! Usually zooms are out of question for ana setups, but its nice to know you are using one successfully, and able to utilize some of those in-between focal lengths. I think if people keep adding their thoughts and suggestions this could be a beneficial thread for people that are looking beyond the standard suggestions. 6 hours ago, anton.zimin@gmail.com said: Here you can find a lot: http://lens-club.ru/lenses/c_1427282.html It is all in Russian, but google translate can be helpful. It is a huge data-base of all lenses you could imagine. This is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, DirectorCH said: @Teemu Fantastic stuff man! Usually zooms are out of question for ana setups, but its nice to know you are using one successfully, and able to utilize some of those in-between focal lengths. I think if people keep adding their thoughts and suggestions this could be a beneficial thread for people that are looking beyond the standard suggestions. This is fantastic. Thanks. I totally agree that usually zooms are out of question. But this setup totally works in it’s own way. I would like to find a lens that gives me possibility to do those crazy ”italo zooms” or ”western zooms” or what ever you like to call it. But only one I know for this suff is Lomo Foton zoom with anamorphic front. But that comes with a big PRICE tag (as all quality anamorphic zooms). Also one lens that I like to use as taking lens in wider end is this great Russian 50mm macro lens. Volna-9. Even without anamorphic must be one of my favorite lenses. Crazy flares, star bokeh at f5.6 - f8 and great macro. Not so much talk about lens also in my opinnion. Ian Edward Weir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorCH Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Teemu said: Thanks. I totally agree that usually zooms are out of question. But this setup totally works in it’s own way. I would like to find a lens that gives me possibility to do those crazy ”italo zooms” or ”western zooms” or what ever you like to call it. But only one I know for this suff is Lomo Foton zoom with anamorphic front. But that comes with a big PRICE tag (as all quality anamorphic zooms). Also one lens that I like to use as taking lens in wider end is this great Russian 50mm macro lens. Volna-9. Even without anamorphic must be one of my favorite lenses. Crazy flares, star bokeh at f5.6 - f8 and great macro. Not so much talk about lens also in my opinnion. Yeah you would need a cinema zoom, or at least a long zoom that is parafocal, and very few cheaper stills lenses are. But it seems like the RMC might be parafocal. Has the 72mm front thread of the RMC given you issues? Ana clamps are usually 52mm, and large front taking lenses are usually recommended against for anamorphic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, DirectorCH said: Yeah you would need a cinema zoom, or at least a long zoom that is parafocal, and very few cheaper stills lenses are. But it seems like the RMC might be parafocal. Has the 72mm front thread of the RMC given you issues? Ana clamps are usually 52mm, and large front taking lenses are usually recommended against for anamorphic. Well actually with my setup the 72mm works really well with my modified FM Lens (Focus Module). It has 72mm rear threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectorCH Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, Teemu said: Well actually with my setup the 72mm works really well with my modified FM Lens (Focus Module). It has 72mm rear threads. That won't be my setup but I guess it doesn't really matter, because if I use a step-down ring its all the same, it really has to do with the optics, and the back of the anamorphic anyway. At least thats how I understand it. So if it works for you, then it should be ok for me even if I use a clamp and do a HCDNA on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Edward Weir Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 If you like zooms with anamorphic's you might like this Sorry, posted in wrong place. Teemu and DirectorCH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ian Edward Weir said: If you like zooms with anamorphic's you might like this Really cool! Can you also make really fast zoom changes with that setup? This is something I would like to try out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Edward Weir Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Teemu said: Really cool! Can you also make really fast zoom changes with that setup? This is something I would like to try out. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaquet Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Leica Angenieux 45-90mm, 2.8 is an option too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton.zimin@gmail.com Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 hours ago, whoisjsd said: Cosmicar 75mm c-mount lens with the Isco Ultra Star. It's really hard to find a combination to be 100% vignette free with this setup. I thought about modifying my Ultra Star to make it vignette free just for this lens. Need to modify the lens aperture disc first, though. I absolutely love the look. Need to shoot with it more and add the Rapido FVD-16A. How are you going to modify it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioskop.Inc Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Anyone thought of using Mamiya 645 lenses? (was trying to embed a really nice video, but poster has restricted it - check it out, it certainly has opened my eyes to a set of lenses) vimeo.com/264306448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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