Charlie Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I'm shooting a wedding today, first time. I'm going for the style in this video. I'm pretty sure I know how to do it but just wondered if you all had any pointers! ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 This looks like it was shot on film (16mm color negative Kodak Vision stock) - you can't replicate this fully, only simulate it with plugins like FilmConvert or LUTs like Visioncolor Impulz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellure Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Minor note, but if you're shooting 4K and outputting to 1080 you can do the shaky-cam / stutter / re-framing stuff in post (albeit at the cost of a bunch of editing time). Might be challenging to get that 16mm hand-held film camera look unless you're practiced at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I'd also imagine you need a camera with as little rolling shutter as possible. It's a beautiful look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 By the looks of it it's 100% digital. Simple step by step: use auto exposure, mess up levels at import, mess up grading badly, slap a filter on it, pretend it's working as intended. By evidence if you cut things fast enough ppl won't notice how incredibly bad it really looks. Anyway enough about that. It looks like some shots where cropped and re framed/moved in post, lot of the closeup looks a little too close to be shot that way, but who knows. I think it's the time skip that makes the "home look" work for telling the story. I'm not a super fan of the too close up and the added shaking filter makes some of the pans look really odd if you look closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 To me it looks like Canon DSLR footage (possibly using the Cinestyle profile) with Filmconvert 16mm / 8mm effects added to shots in post. Add in a smattering of Light Leaks and there you go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoScoops Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Besides the quick edits, cool location and amazing model help. Imagine it with a fat chick. ? Digital Bolex on a shoulder rig would probably give a better version of what this is trying to be. Charlie, webrunner5 and jhnkng 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 hours ago, TwoScoops said: Besides the quick edits, cool location and amazing model help. Imagine it with a fat chick. ? Digital Bolex on a shoulder rig would probably give a better version of what this is trying to be. Grow up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Jesus Christ I had to take a Sea Sick pill after watching that video! Talk about camera movement. He must have taken 4 Black Mollies before he shot it. I think the video sucks ass to be honest. My pointer is delete the damn thing LoL. 26 minutes ago, Gregormannschaft said: Grow up Some people really Love Fats Chicks. not me, but it seems the skinnier the guy is the fatter the women is he is with in my experience. The old "there is a lid for every pot" thingy. kaylee and TwoScoops 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 It's a nice attempt at something that feels classic, but the quick editing kills it for me. I sometimes wonder if I'm the only one who can't really handle this kind of attention deficit editing anymore... it actually disconnects me from the piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 In addition to the useful (and immature / tasteless) contributions above, another thing would be to shoot a huge amount. Faster cuts means more shots. Think about it like this, if shots are held for 1s instead of 4s each and every one of those 1s shots are the 'right' moment (framing smile etc) and are in a different location then that means you need 4 times as many shots. TBH you're either a genius or you're crazy to try and apply this to a wedding scenario, and I really hope that the couple (and guests) really understand what it involves. If you've got a couple who are having a simple outdoor ceremony and are willing to do lots of location changes and poses etc for an hour or two (or four!) then that's totally cool, but if you're going to try and apply this type of film-making to a traditional wedding then you're either going to get normal shots and not create something like this or you're going to interrupt their wedding day a huge amount, and potentially both. Good luck - it's a beautiful style, although I would have thought that IS of some kind would have kept the hand-held look but cut out the sharper jitters making a nicer final product. Gregormannschaft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Most couples in the UK would be happy with four hours CCTV footage and a few snaps from a mobile phone. A bonus reel containing shots of uncle Alf rolling around drunk in the hotel fountain completes everybody's joy. Never again will I pour my heart into a wedding film. Inazuma, webrunner5 and Gregormannschaft 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Davey said: Most couples in the UK would be happy with four hours CCTV footage and a few snaps from a mobile phone. A bonus reel containing shots of uncle Alf rolling around drunk in the hotel fountain completes everybody's joy. This gave me a laugh: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1368143/Wedding-videographer-ordered-pay-compensation-dreadful-350-video.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 You should speak with the bridge and groom first to see if they would like this style. If you are going to go through with it, just remember to keep it all about dynamism. Keep moving to different places. Posing differently, with different objects in the surrounding. Camera-wise. To me it looks like it was shot on real 16mm. The chroma on some of the shots is very characteristic of it. But they may have exaggerated it a bit by adding light leaks. Don't bother shooting 4k. You need to keep rolling shutter at a minimum. Perhaps use some diffusion filters to get closer to this filmic look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Inazuma said: Camera-wise. To me it looks like it was shot on real 16mm. The chroma on some of the shots is very characteristic of it. But they may have exaggerated it a bit by adding light leaks. It's real 16mm, shot on negative stock - as you can see in the few tiny white emulsion spots in the image, despite the low-resolution scan/rendering of the video. Plus, there is zero rolling shutter despite the heavy camera movement. EDIT: It's a typical 16mm handheld look, pioneered in 1960s experimental filmmaking, among others by Jonas Mekas: The previous comments that suggested that this was shot on a DSLR with 4K cropping are completely off and written by people who seem to have no experience with analog filmmaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Some of the Max Mara video may have been shot on film but I still think it's mostly digital. You can do a lot digitally to emulate a film look these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kieran said: Some of the Max Mara video may have been shot on film but I still think it's mostly digital. You can do a lot digitally to emulate a film look these days. Okay, let's do some research: The photographer of the Max Mara campaign was Cass Bird, the model Hana Jirickova: https://modnidny.cz/max-mara-weekend-spring-summer-2018-campaign-by-cass-bird/ The cinematographer is uncredited but was, most likely Chris Bernabeo who states in this interview: "I work for Cass Bird and her work is constantly inspiring me". In the same interview, he also states: "I’d also love a sexy Bolex to shoot my fashion films on 16mm." I'd say that it was shot on 16mm, but all editing and postproduction - including the film burn effects - was done digitally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, cantsin said: Okay, let's do some research: The photographer of the Max Mara campaign was Cass Bird, the model Hana Jirickova: https://modnidny.cz/max-mara-weekend-spring-summer-2018-campaign-by-cass-bird/ I also did some research, found Cass Bird and I have already emailed her earlier today asking her about the video. Well done on finding the potential cinematographer. It's looking very likely that you were right... EDIT: looks like he got that Bolex: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 i'd say a mix of 16mm analog & digital. the shots at 0:10, 0:40, the biker jacket shots & couple other definitely appear digital. it's a dope ad in any case imo! Charlie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 If it was shot on 16mm film, why would they add warp stabilizer to some of the shots? When she leans down towards the stone you can see motion blur even tho the "camera" follows her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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