Nikon FF Mirrorless

[Danyyyel]

Its 24-70mm 2.8. I almost fainted when I saw 27-70.

1 minute ago, Lars Steenhoff said:

It is written on the Nikon USA Website, 

Battery Life (shots per charge) 310  shots (CIPA) 
Movies:  Approx. 10-15 min of movie recording

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/z-6.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs

but on the Japanese website it says 85 min.  I trust more the Japanese site

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nikon-image.com%2Fproducts%2Fmirrorless%2Flineup%2Fz_6%2Fspec.html&edit-text=&act=url

There seems to be a lot of confusion in their marketing department, that's not the first bizarre info coming out of this launch.

[Lars Steenhoff]

30 minutes ago, Danyyyel said:

Its 24-70mm 2.8. I almost fainted when I saw 27-70.

There seems to be a lot of confusion in their marketing department, that's not the first bizarre info coming out of this launch.

fixed the typo, yes 24-70 f2.8

 

Here is the brochure 

https://cdn-4.nikon-cdn.com/e/Q5NM96RZZo-RRZZFeeMiveET0gVQ--AxJI7g-xcLVNVcp7mdwZQz5w==/Misc/Z7_Z6_Brochure.pdf

 

[Trek of Joy]

1 hour ago, Lars Steenhoff said:

Battery grip proto type

14-24 f2.8

24-70 f2.8

58 f0.95

That 24-70 looks Sony GM sized, but that's to be expected. The 14-30 looks pretty reasonable given how wide it is, doesn't look much larger than the FE 16-35/4 outside of a fatter front element. I dig that Nikon is giving the Otus line the middle finger with the Noct. Hopefully they build more.

[IronFilm]

That is one big lens! :-o You really realize how gigantic it is when mounted on a camera and next to other lenses:

 

And it seems Nikon will quickly by the end of next year have filled out the core zoom and primes most shooters would want to see them starting out with:

 

 

So only three lenses for now, but Nikon will quickly catch up!

[Mokara]

That is what they said about the 1 series, lol, and look where those are now.

[webrunner5]

Not sure if anyone has posted all the specs??

Specifications:

TypeMirrorless

Lens mountNikon Z mount

Effective angle of viewFX (full-frame)

Image sensorCMOS, 35.9 mm x 23.9 mm

Total pixels46.89 million

Dust-reduction systemImage Dust Off reference data (requires Capture NX-D); image sensor cleaning.

Effective pixels45.7 million

Image size (pixels)FX (36x24) image area, (L) 8256 x 5504 (45.4 million), (M) 6192 x 4128 ( 25.6 million), (S) 4128 x 2752 (11.4 million).
DX (24x16) image area, (L) 5408 x 3600 (19.5 million), (M) 4048 x 2696 (10.9 million), (S) 2704 x 1800 (4.9 million).
5 : 4 (30x24) image area, (L) 6880 x 5504 (37.9 million), (M) 5152 x 4120 (21.2 million), (S) 3440 x 2752 (9.5 million).
1 :1 (24x24) image area, (L) 5504 x 5504 (30.3 million), (M) 4128 x 4128 (17.0 million), (S) 2752 x 2752 (7.6 million).
16 : 9 (36x20) image area, (L) 8256 x 4640 (38.3 million), (M) 6192 x 3480 (21.5 million), (S) 4128 x 2320 (9.6 million).
Photographs taken during movie recording at a frame size of 3840 x 2160: 3840 x 2160.
Photographs taken during movie recording at other frame sizes: 1920 x 1080.

Storage file formatsNEF (RAW): 12 or 14 bit (lossless compressed, compressed, or uncompressed); large, medium, and small available (medium and small images are recorded at a bit depth of 12 bits using lossless compression).
TIFF (RGB).
JPEG: JPEG-Baseline compliant with fine (approx. 1 : 4), normal (approx. 1 : 8), or basic (approx. 1 : 16) compression; optimal quality compression available.
NEF (RAW)+JPEG: Single photograph recorded in both NEF (RAW) and JPEG formats.

Picture Control SystemAuto, Standard, Neutral, Vivid, Monochrome, Portrait, Landscape, Flat.
Creative Picture Controls (Dream, Morning, Pop, Sunday, Somber, Dramatic, Silence, Bleached, Melancholic, Pure, Denim, Toy, Sepia, Blue, Red, Pink, Charcoal, Graphite, Binary, Carbon); selected Picture Control can be modified; storage for custom Picture Controls.

Card slot1 XQD card

File systemDCF 2.0, Exif 2.31, PictBridge

Viewfinder1.27-cm/0.5-in. approx. 3690k-dot (Quad VGA) OLED with color balance and auto and 11-level manual brightness controls

Frame coverageApprox. 100% horizontal and 100% vertical

MagnificationApprox. 0.8× (50 mm lens at infinity, -1.0 m-1)

Eyepoint21 mm (-1.0 m-1; from center surface of viewfinder eyepiece lens)

Diopter adjustment-4 to +2 m-1

Eye sensorAutomatically switches between monitor and viewfinder displays

Compatible lensesZ mount NIKKOR lenses. F mount NIKKOR lenses with mount adapter; restrictions may apply.

Shutter typeElectronically-controlled vertical-travel focal-plane mechanical shutter; electronic front-curtain shutter; electronic shutter.

Shutter speed1/8000 to 30 s in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV, bulb, time, X200

Flash sync speedX=1/200 s; synchronizes with shutter at 1/200 s or slower; Auto FP High-Speed sync supported

Release modeSingle frame, low-speed continuous, high-speed continuous, high-speed continuous (extended), self-timer

Frame advance rateUp to 9 fps. Low-speed continuous: 1 to 5 fps. High-speed continuous: 5.5 fps (14-bit NEF/RAW: 5 fps). High-speed continuous (extended): 9 fps (14-bit NEF/RAW: 8 fps). (measured under Nikon-specified test conditions)

Self-timer2 s, 5 s, 10 s, 20 s; 1 to 9 exposures at intervals of 0.5, 1, 2, or 3 s

Exposure meteringTTL exposure metering

Metering methodMatrix metering.
Center-weighted metering: Weight of 75% given to 12 mm circle in center of frame; weighting can instead be based on average of entire frame.
Spot metering: Meters 4 mm circle (about 1.5% of frame) centered on selected focus point.
Highlight-weighted metering.

Metering range (ISO 100, f/1.4 lens, 20 °C/68 °F)–3 to +17 EV (ISO 100, f/2.0 lens, 20 °C/68 °F)

Exposure meter couplingCPU

ModeAuto; programmed auto with flexible program (P); shutter-priority auto (S); aperture-priority auto (A); manual (M); user settings (U1, U2, U3)

Exposure compensation–5 to +5 EV in increments of 1/3 or 1/2 EV available in modes P, S, A, and M

Exposure lockLuminosity locked at detected value

ISO sensitivityISO 64 to 25600 in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV.
Can also be set to approx. 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, or 1 EV (ISO 32 equivalent) below ISO 64 or to approx. 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 1, or 2 EV (ISO 102400 equivalent) above ISO 25600; auto ISO sensitivity control available

Active D-LightingCan be selected from Auto, Extra high, High, Normal, Low, or Off

Multiple exposureAdd, average, lighten, darken

Other optionsHDR (high dynamic range), photo mode flicker reduction

Autofocus493 points (phase-detection, in single-point AF) / 90% coverage vertically & horizontally.
Hybrid phase-detection/contrast AF with AF assist.

Detection range-1 to +19 EV (-4 to +19 EV with low-light AF)

Lens servoAutofocus (AF):
Single-servo AF (AF-S), Continuous-servo AF (AF-C), full-time AF (AF-F; available only in movie mode); predictive focus tracking.
Manual focus (M):
Electronic rangefinder can be used

Focus points493 (single-point AF)

AF-area modePinpoint, single-point, and dynamic-area AF (pinpoint and dynamic-area AF available in photo mode only); wide-area AF (S); wide-area AF (L); auto-area AF

Focus lockFocus can be locked by pressing shutter-release button halfway (single-servo AF) or by pressing the center of the sub-selector

Camera VR5-axis image sensor shift

Lens VRLens shift (available with VR lenses)

Flash controlTTL: i-TTL flash control; i-TTL balanced fill-flash is used with matrix, center-weighted, and highlight-weighted metering, standard i-TTL fill-flash with spot metering

Flash modesFront-curtain sync, slow sync, rear-curtain sync, red-eye reduction, red-eye reduction with slow sync, slow rear-curtain sync, off

Flash compensation-3 to +1 EV in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV available in modes P, S, A, and M

Flash-ready indicatorLights when optional flash unit is fully charged; flashes as underexposure warning after flash is fired at full output

Accessory shoeISO 518 hot-shoe with sync and data contacts and safety lock

Nikon Creative Lighting Systemi-TTL flash control, radio-controlled Advanced Wireless Lighting, optical Advanced Wireless Lighting, modeling illumination, FV lock, Color Information Communication, Auto FP High-Speed Sync, unified flash control

White balanceAuto (3 types), natural light auto, direct sunlight, cloudy, shade, incandescent, fluorescent (7 types), flash, choose color temperature (2500 K to 10,000 K), preset manual (up to 6 values can be stored), all except choose color temperature with fine-tuning

Bracketing typesExposure,  Flash,  White balance,  ADL

Movie - meteringTTL exposure metering using main image sensor

Movie - metering methodMatrix, center-weighted, or highlight-weighted

Movie - frame size (pixels) and frame rate3840 x 2160 (4K UHD); 30p (progressive), 25p, 24p.
1920 x 1080; 120p, 100p, 60p, 50p, 30p, 25p, 24p.
1920×1080 (slow-mo); 30p ×4, 25p ×4, 24p ×5.
Actual frame rates for 120p, 100p, 60p, 50p, 30p, 25p, and 24p are 119.88, 100, 59.94, 50, 29.97, 25, and 23.976 fps respectively; quality selection available at all sizes except 3840 x 2160, 1920 x 1080 120p/100p, and 1920 x 1080 slow-mo, when quality is fixed at high.

Movie - file formatMOV ,  MP4

Movie - video compressionH.264/MPEG-4 Advanced Video Coding

Movie - audio recording formatLinear PCM ,  AAC

Movie - audio recording deviceBuilt-in stereo or external microphone with attenuator option; sensitivity adjustable

Movie - ISO sensitivityAuto: Auto ISO sensitivity control (ISO 64 to 25600).
P, S, A: Auto ISO sensitivity control (ISO 64 to Hi 2) with selectable upper limit.
M: Auto ISO sensitivity control (ISO 64 to Hi 2) available with selectable upper limit; manual selection (ISO 64 to 25600 in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV) with additional options available equivalent to approximately 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 1, or 2 EV (ISO 102400 equivalent) above ISO 25600.

Movie - Active D-LightingCan be selected from Same as photo settings, Extra high, High, Normal, Low, or Off

Movie - Other optionsTime-lapse movies, electronic vibration reduction, time codes, movie log output (N-Log)

Monitor8 -cm ( 3.2 –in.) diagonal. Tilting TFT touch-sensitive LCD with 170° viewing angle, approximately 100% frame coverage, and color balance and 11-level manual brightness controls. Approx. 2100 k-dot.

PlaybackFull-frame and thumbnail (4, 9, or 72 images) playback with playback zoom, playback zoom cropping, movie playback, photo and/or movie slide shows, histogram display, highlights, photo information, location data display, picture rating, and auto image rotation.

USBType C connector (SuperSpeed USB). Connection to built-in USB port is recommended.

HDMI outputType C HDMI connector

Audio inputStereo mini-pin jack (3.5 mm diameter; plug-in power supported)

Audio outputStereo mini-pin jack (3.5 mm diameter)

Accessory terminal(s)Can be used with MC-DC2 and other optional accessories

Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) standardsIEEE 802.11b/g/n/a/ac

Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) operating frequency2412 to 2462 MHz (channel 11) and 5180 to 5320 MHz

Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) maximum output power2.4 GHz band: 7.0 dBm. 5 GHz band: 12.1 dBm

Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) securityAuthentication: Open system, WPA2-PSK

Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) range (line of sight)Approximately 10 m (32 ft) without interference; range may vary with signal strength and presence or absence of obstacles

Bluetooth standardsCommunication protocols: Bluetooth Specification Version 4.2;
Operating frequency: Bluetooth: 2402 to 2480 MHz; Bluetooth Low Energy: 2402 to 2480 MHz

Supported languagesArabic, Bengali, Bulgarian, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hindi, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Marathi, Norwegian, Persian, Polish, Portuguese (Portugal and Brazil), Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish, Tamil, Telugu, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese

BatteryOne EN-EL15b rechargeable Li-ion battery; EN-EL15a/EN-EL15 can also be used, but note that fewer pictures can be taken on a single charge and that charging AC adapter can be used to charge EN-EL15b batteries only

AC adapterEH-5c/EH-5b AC adapter (requires EP-5B power connector, which is available separately)

Tripod socket1/4–in. (ISO 1222)

Dimensions (W x H x D)Approx. 134 x 100.5 x 67.5 mm (5.3 x 4 x 2.7 in.)

WeightApprox. 675 g (1 lb. 7.9 oz.) with battery and memory card but without body cap; approx. 585 g/1 lb. 4.7 oz. (camera body only)

Operating environment - temperature0 °C to 40 °C (+32 °F to 104 °F)

Operating environment - humidity85% or less (no condensation)

Supplied accessoriesBF-N1 Body Cap, DK-29 Rubber Eyecup (comes attached to camera), EN-EL15b Rechargeable Li-ion, Battery with terminal cover, MH-25a Battery Charger (comes with either an AC wall adapter or power cable of a type and shape that varies with the country or region of sale), AN-DC19 Strap, EH-7P Charging AC Adapter (supplied with a plug adapter attached in countries or regions where required; shape depends on country of sale), HDMI/USB Cable Clip, UC-E24 USB Cable, BS-1 Accessory Shoe Cover.

[jonpais]

Re: GAS

I really feel bad for my Canadian buddy who sold all his Nikon gear to go with Fuji because of back focus issues, only to sell all that off at a great loss to buy the Sony a7rIII for more megapixels and who is now probably kicking himself in the pants because of the Z cameras. ?

[wolf33d]

22 hours ago, Danyyyel said:

Smell a lot as a Sony but hurt fanboy, I heard that they were the worse and I can see why. "It was nikon’s chance to release something better than Sony " so tell me where can I buy a Full frame mirrorless camera with 10 bit Slog please? Tell me where can we have 5 stop full frame ibis please. What you should be is happy because now at lease from the now you are sure that all Sony camera will have 10bit and from what I could recall was the number one request/frustration from Sony users. That 10bit is revolutionary for a full frame camera as now it makes your S-log usable and not just a marketing gimmick that is putting Log format in a 8 bit container that needed a lot of work around to be usable.  Lastly adding a 5 inch ninja V with it will make it barely the same size as a Nikon D750/D7500 camera with a flash. For a comparable set up you would need to go 30K+ for Full frame 10 bit camera and you would need to to carry something at least 5x the size and weight.  

WOW, 10 bit Nlog, for me what a surpise, I went to sleep with the latest rumors being same as Nikon D850 but woke up to 10bit Nlog. I would have liked a little bit higher frame rate, but this is near perfect. The closest thing to and Arri Alexa colours and hopefully dynamic range, with good to great autofocus video autofocus with full frame esthetics. Yesssssssssssss

What the hell man. Nothing to do with fan boy, i dont care about Sony go see other threads where I make bold critics on them. 
I am sorry but you dont know how that IBIS will compare with the A7, the 10 bit external is fully useless for me and many people : I buy a mirrorless for its small size, not to put an external recorder on it. 
The battery life is half of the A7 and the AF points less than half. Not to mention the new lens mount means not many options for years.

The ergonomics will kill the Sony and it has better things too (codec and colours in video probably, EVF resolution, ...) but overall it's not really innovative. 

I would have much preferred buy a Z6+7 than an A7SIII + A7RIII for video and stills, but there is absolutely 0 doubt the A7SIII will be much better for video. When it comes to Z7 and A7RIII for stills I would rather buy the Z7 but it does not make sense to not have a combo from the same manufacturer. 

I sent back my A7III this week. Waiting to see the A7SIII and what Canon brings to the table 

[webrunner5]

Yeah and  No internal N-Log is sort of crazy also. They had made this camera where you kind of Have to buy an external recorder if you want any sort of good DR. And then they are talking like 12 stops, pretty good but not great either. I mean it has some really nice stuff in it, but where it really counts, DR, and a thicker Codec you are not going to have a small package, and you are going to shell out some pretty big bucks between the two to make it happen. But it is a huge plus for Nikon to even offer it at all, I will give them that. It will be a hit for them no doubt. A few firmware updates and it might be sorted out a bit more also. Damn good for a first try.

[JurijTurnsek]

I read somewhere that you can power it using a power bank, so the 15min limit is moot. And with a power bank, overheating is far less likely, even in a small body like this.

[Mokara]

3 hours ago, JurijTurnsek said:

I read somewhere that you can power it using a power bank, so the 15min limit is moot. And with a power bank, overheating is far less likely, even in a small body like this.

The bit that overheats is the processor. When it does, it throttles, and no longer can do the compression, hence you stop recording. Battery has nothing to do with it.

[Django]

6 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

Yeah and  No internal N-Log is sort of crazy also. They had made this camera where you kind of Have to buy an external recorder if you want any sort of good DR. And then they are talking like 12 stops, pretty good but not great either. I mean it has some really nice stuff in it, but where it really counts, DR, and a thicker Codec you are not going to have a small package, and you are going to shell out some pretty big bucks between the two to make it happen. But it is a huge plus for Nikon to even offer it at all, I will give them that. It will be a hit for them no doubt. A few firmware updates and it might be sorted out a bit more also. Damn good for a first try.

Don't underestimate Nikon's flat profile. Mattias Burling had estimated 2014's D750 Flat profile DR at +13 stops:

These 2018 Z series BSI sensors should push out the same if not better DR internally..

[mercer]

3 hours ago, Django said:

Don't underestimate Nikon's flat profile. Mattias Burling had estimated 2014's D750 Flat profile DR at +13 stops:

These 2018 Z series BSI sensors should push out the same if not better DR internally..

Yeah the Nikon Flat Profile is nuts and it’s in all of their newest model cameras... even the D3400 which can be bought for less than $300, with the kit lens, has the Flat Profile. 

The Z6 looks like a beast. However I still think the new lens mount was a tragic error.

[webrunner5]

4 hours ago, Django said:

Don't underestimate Nikon's flat profile. Mattias Burling had estimated 2014's D750 Flat profile DR at +13 stops:

These 2018 Z series BSI sensors should push out the same if not better DR internally..

It doesn't have an internal Log, and it is 8bit, an outdated Codec, and only 24mps @ 30p and you think it is going to get over 13 + stops internally?? Really?

Well why the hell would Anybody ever buy this New BM PK4? It is Only 12.5 to13 as BM is stating it stops wise.

[sanveer]

26 minutes ago, mercer said:

Yeah the Nikon Flat Profile is nuts and it’s in all of their newest model cameras... even the D3400 which can be bought for less than $300, with the kit lens, has the Flat Profile. 

The Z6 looks like a beast. However I still think the new lens mount was a tragic error.

Actually if Nikon claims the cameras have 12 stops in video, I would guess it's a little less than 12 stops. 

[Young]

13 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

It doesn't have an internal Log, and it is 8bit, an outdated Codec, and only 24mps @ 30p and you think it is going to get over 13 + stops internally?? Really?

Well why the hell would Anybody ever buy this New BM PK4? It is Only 12.5 to13 as BM is stating it stops wise.

Did you even watch @Mattias Burlings video? Are you daft?

[mercer]

17 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

It doesn't have an internal Log, and it is 8bit, an outdated Codec, and only 24mps @ 30p and you think it is going to get over 13 + stops internally?? Really? Well why the hell would Anybody ever buy this New BM PK4? It is Only 12.5 to13 as BM is stating it stops wise.

Nikon Flat is very similar to Canon Log, so around 12 stops sounds plausible. 

[Django]

21 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

It doesn't have an internal Log, and it is 8bit, an outdated Codec, and only 24mps @ 30p and you think it is going to get over 13 + stops internally?? Really?

Well why the hell would Anybody ever buy this New BM PK4? It is Only 12.5 to13 as BM is stating it stops wise.

The proof is in the pudding. Sony claims 14 stops on A73 and that's an 8-bit codec . So yeah why get the BM P4K? we all know some companies fudge these claims, others are more conservative.Nikon is probably the later, they gave a CIPA rating of 10-15mn video battery life, yet Fro dude says " The battery read 44% at the end of our shooting which included 500 or so photos, setting up the menus as well as filming for close to 20 minutes in full frame 4k."

[mercer]

19 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Actually if Nikon claims the cameras have 12 stops in video, I would guess it's a little less than 12 stops. 

I think anything over 11 stops is acceptable for these cameras... if somebody needs more rent an Alexa.

We’ll have to wait and see, but this camera seems to be a pretty nice hybrid. Good internal image when you need a small footprint or add a cage, a Ninja V and all the goodies when you need a higher FF output with a relatively small footprint. 

On 8/23/2018 at 12:08 AM, IronFilm said:

Sadly the Ninja Star only does 1080, while the Z6 outputs 4K

I think the Ninja Star might maybe even have been discontinued?

Hopefully Atomos brings out a Ninja Star 4K!

Otherwise the Ninja V is a good pairing here. With its compact 5" screen.  

 

Exactly!

 

Right. I had a shooting day yesterday, so I haven’t been catching up, but is the 1080p a downscale from 4K? If so, 10bit 1080p ProRes to a Ninja Star sounds pretty okay to me.

[Mattias Burling]

Never mind.