Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2018 Google registered 75% less interest in the 5D Mark IV launch compared to the previous camera. Overall, all search queries for the Canon range has fallen 50% since 2010. With that an other insights let's take a deep look at the search giant's traffic... Read the full article webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I'd be curious how D700 vs D800 vs D810 vs D750 vs D850 search trends look next to the 5D series (throwing in the 5DS/5DSR as well for fun). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 10, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2018 Yeah, I tried that and trend was similar. D750 isn't reeeaaally in the same line though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 The D850 is down too like the 5Dmk4? That is a pity, as the D850 is something special unlike the 5Dmk4 flop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 10, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2018 It shows wider public interest in days of 5D III and D800 has dropped off quite a lot. These were hot ticket consumer goods. Maybe after spending £1000 on their phone, people can no longer afford a high-end DSLR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 That is why now I spend the least possible on my phones! My "fancy" phone now is a secondhand Samsung S7 Active hansel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Search trends don't equal sales. Its one metric that factors into the marketing mix, but its not absolute, and like many simple statistics, drawing conclusions based on it places too much weight on one small component without looking at the big picture. But it must get clicks, there was a post about this on SAR a few days ago, which was a lot of fanboy nonsense. This article connects a few dots that aren't really there. Of course over time search interest in a consumer product 2-years after its release is going to decline. But it still compares favorably to the a7III which has only been out a few months and the d850 with came out a year later. Despite a DSLR heavy lineup, we've seen market share reports showing CaNikon owning 3/4 of the camera market. I went worldwide instead of just in the US. And just to demonstrate how irrelevant these numbers can be, I threw in Leica and Pentax. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Yeah but other than Leica they all show a decline. If your selling cameras I think that might be relevant. The Sony A7 mk III is too new to tell long term. I just don't see how the average person even Needs a "real" camera anymore. The newer Smartphones have a 2x lens in them, and some are going 3x lenses. Why bother with a camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 An interesting qualifier for us is "video" Brands: Models: Trek of Joy and andrgl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Sage said: An interesting qualifier for us is "video" Brands: Models: Exactly my point. Depending on the terms used, you can easily skew results. I'm a mid-level marketing nobody, I've written many reports using this kind of information to paint a picture that makes my subject look good and the competition look bad based on search terms, but its not very useful by itself since '5d video' absolutely crushes everything else, despite what some may say. Cheers Chris IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Trek of Joy said: I'm a mid-level marketing nobody, I've written many reports using this kind of information to paint a picture that makes my subject look good and the competition look bad based on search terms, but its not very useful by itself since '5d video' absolutely crushes everything else, despite what some may say. Crushes, wow that is a pretty over the top statement. Using ML it might. But hell Canon didn't have shit to do with that. And how many people even use it. @mercer is the only one left that isn't banned on here still using it!! ? I don't think Canon is "crushing" anything as of late video wise. 5D mk IV, C700, M50, ehh not my idea of leading the pack. Sort of middle of the Pack. Lackluster sales at best on them. C200 might be a bright spot, but not if you Have to Have that middle codec. And well you sort of do! Raw is not really a great alternative All the time you need a broadcast Codec. But it is a nice camera, not saying it isn't. Just why did they not go that extra Codec, why! We know why, but why not. And you Know Canon will F up this new mirrorless someway. They are not going to get it right on the first try no matter how hard they try. Nikon either. They both have a Ton of stuff to implement they have never really done before. I don't envy them I will tell you that. And add new lenses to the mix, Wow. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I would bet this new BM P4K will kick Anything Canon has, and brings out under 8000 bucks hands down. Won't be as slick to operate, but output wise, You know it will win. Hell the little BMPCC can have as good or better output now. Did you see that Video I just put up, not mine, in the Blackmagic Sub Forum. Hell no Canon can do that. Liszon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 lol bamigoreng, Trek of Joy, heart0less and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Crushes, wow that is a pretty over the top statement. Using ML it might. But hell Canon didn't have shit to do with that. And how many people even use it. @mercer is the only one left that isn't banned on here still using it!! ? I don't think Canon is "crushing" anything as of late video wise. 5D mk IV, C700, M50, ehh not my idea of leading the pack. Sort of middle of the Pack. Lackluster sales at best on them. C200 might be a bright spot, but not if you Have to Have that middle codec. And well you sort of do! Raw is not really a great alternative All the time you need a broadcast Codec. But it is a nice camera, not saying it isn't. Just why did they not go that extra Codec, why! We know why, but why not. And you Know Canon will F up this new mirrorless someway. They are not going to get it right on the first try no matter how hard they try. Nikon either. They both have a Ton of stuff to implement they have never really done before. I don't envy them I will tell you that. And add new lenses to the mix, Wow. I think he meant “crushing everything else” based on google search numbers. So if we are to believe that this extrapolated data has any direct correlation on sales, or interest, and the 5D series is down, then Panasonic and Sony are really screwed because their numbers are way worse than Canon’s. MurtlandPhoto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, mercer said: I think he meant “crushing everything else” based on google search numbers. I think you’re right, now that I wiped the smudges off my iPhone 5s. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 You forgot to include "flange distance" which after all that discussion in the Nikon FF and Pocket 2 threads must surely be the leading search term in all of photography today!! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, jonpais said: I think you’re right, now that I wiped the smudges off my iPhone 5s. ? Nice, you got a twofer with that one. It crossed the mortal boundaries of two topics. Well played. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I am SO glad I've moved to Resolve. It deserves it's rise in popularity. ntblowz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Camera tech is starting to plateau just like phone tech. The original 5D was a ground breaking stills camera that made high quality full frame digital capture available to the mass market.The mk2 did the same thing by bringing cinematic looking HD to the mass market. Difficult to make these giant leaps again and who cares if Canon has failed or is unable to ' crush' the opposition unless you are a Canon fanboy or shareholder.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Orangenz said: I am SO glad I've moved to Resolve. It deserves it's rise in popularity. Correcting for Leonardo Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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