buggz Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 8 hours ago, keessie65 said: do I see a lot of banding in this piece of film? I do too, a circular pattern starting from the center. ( ( ( () ) ) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueIndigo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Gerald Undone talking about the X-T3: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 9, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 9, 2018 I often get banding added in youtube compression so I wouldn't read to much into it before seeing original clips. Brian Williams and meudig 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Ditto. (BTW this thread is fully underestimated... ...this Fuji is the 1st one of its kind to match the current GH series standard... ...other than going along BMD for motion picture with a plus: this is a hybrid!) Brian Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNh8ZnDNHcA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 autofocus testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Much improved AF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 19 hours ago, buggz said: I do too, a circular pattern starting from the center. ( ( ( () ) ) ) Sadly, I have seen crazy banding in many xt3 videos. That killed it for me; now to see if Panasonic or Sony can release what we want... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Snowbro said: Sadly, I have seen crazy banding in many xt3 videos. That killed it for me; now to see if Panasonic or Sony can release what we want... They will all have crazy banding - after Youtube compression. These cameras are too clean at base ISO, there's no noise/grain to dither large gradients without much detail. frontfocus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 @Luke Mason My Sony videos are clean as a whistle and have no banding on YT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I never see YT compression make banding this bad. I have seen a bunch of x-t3 videos indoor and outdoors, with the banding even worse in some vids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 @Snowbro only time I have seen any banding is when it’s shot in f-log and heavily graded without knowing if it was even shot in 10bit or with what codec. Please don’t buy the camera. Bro. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 It's not a good idea to judge banding by youtube footage. If I apply more contrast to the youtube frame to show banding, this is what I get: Now if I go to vimeo and download the original ungraded version, and apply about the same contrast, this is what I get: And the original ungraded version uploaded to vimeo is still 8bit! In 10bit you will have even less banding. Simon Young, meudig, frontfocus and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Banding is certainly an issue on the XT2 and XH1, so worth further investigation... But judging with youtube is certainly the worst way to do it... Even if something was shot in raw, it might be exported in 8bit at low bitrate, then uploaded to Youtube for another dose of heavy compression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 47 minutes ago, Snowbro said: I never see YT compression make banding this bad. I have seen a bunch of x-t3 videos indoor and outdoors, with the banding even worse in some vids. There is banding throughout his video. It may be a mix of 10-bit at 4-2-0 internal and the fact that probably uploaded at a lower quality on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Null Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 10, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 10, 2018 Log in 8-bit can often do that. Just look at Sony S-log3 which imo is unusable. Luckily Cine gamma looks great, as I suspect Eterna and CC would on the Fuji. F-Log, S-log3 etc are best kept for scenes without large bright areas or when recording externally. Or if one simply doesn't care. From the example above the Vimeo version is good enough imo. Not interested in the X-T3 but the potential for an X-H2, X-Pro3 or X-E4 makes it very interesting to follow the progress, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Simon Young said: @Snowbro only time I have seen any banding is when it’s shot in f-log and heavily graded without knowing if it was even shot in 10bit or with what codec. Please don’t buy the camera. Bro. Please. Don't worry, i'll pass on carrying 17 batteries a day ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Do people go around commenting on other things they wont buy, like a particular dishwasher that doesn't tick all their boxes? Or is it just a camera thing? Simon Young and Inazuma 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 10, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Do people go around commenting on other things they wont buy, like a particular dishwasher that doesn't tick all their boxes? Or is it just a camera thing? Its a dude thing. What ever dudes are extra interested and nerdy about will show the same phenomenon. Cameras, watches, video games, guns, cars, beer and other stereotypical dude things. Girls like these things to of course, but they don't have to be dicks about it. Kubrickian, Castorp, TheRealOG and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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