MacMurphy Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 49 minutes ago, wolf33d said: Thanks Fuji, great camera, but FF is the real game. Let's see what Panasonic brings. Are you sure? Fuji's next medium format camera will be announced soon. ? It will be too thin for video but the next one might not be, so if I buy the XT3 I won't be getting any extra Fuji mount lenses. Apparently you can use most FF ones on their medium format mount and this camera might just be under $3500. Might cheap out on a G90 for video to save up for the Fuji MF for photos, as it has the viewfinder in the right place, on the left. Why do cameras have viewfinders in the middle still? Is it purely for lefties? I know I am not the only one with a nose that protrudes out more than the central viewfinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Fuji gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 According to B&H, it has 2K up to 60p. That’s a cool feature. Any word on the bitrates? Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, MacMurphy said: Are you sure? Fuji's next medium format camera will be announced soon. ? Medium format has too many constraints, lenses get too big, and video specs are poor as of now. In the future, we will see. 52 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Have you seen the fuji lens line up? FF makes little difference when you have such fast primes. When Fuji makes a sensor with as good DR as D850 sensor for stills (DR mainly) they can call me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, mercer said: According to B&H, it has 2K up to 60p. That’s a cool feature. Any word on the bitrates? [DCI 4K (4096 x 2160) ] 59.94p/50p/29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p 400Mbps/200Mbps/100Mbps 59.94p/50p: up to approx. 20min. 29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p: up to approx. 30min [4K (3840 x 2160) ] 59.94p/50p/29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p 400Mbps/200Mbps/100Mbps 59.94p/50p: up to approx. 20min. 29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p: up to approx. 30min [Full HD (2048 x 1080) ] 59.94p/50p/29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p 200Mbps/100Mbps/50Mbps up to approx. 30min. [Full HD (1920 x 1080) ] 59.94p/50p/29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p 200Mbps/100Mbps/50Mbps up to approx. 30min. [Full HD (1920 x 1080) High speed rec.] 120p / 100p 200Mbps(recording) up to approx. 6min. Recording movies in 400Mbps can be done with DCI4K/4K 29.97p/25p/24p/23.98p. DCI4K 59.94p/50p is not available when H.264 is selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, mercer said: According to B&H, it has 2K up to 60p. That’s a cool feature. Any word on the bitrates? 400mbps in 4k60 in All-I and Long GOP in H.265 (could be a mistake, because 400mbps Long GOP in H.265 is VERY high), 200bps or 100 mbps in 4k30 and below (10 bit 4:2:0 in H.265 and 8 bit 4:2:0 in H.264). DPreview have a full table on https://***URL removed***/reviews/fujifilm-x-t3-first-impressions-review/2 If this camera had IBIS, would be shut up and take my money. Waiting for the real world reviews (as other cameras), but looks like a shot out of the park by Fuji. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Márcio Kabke Pinheiro said: 400mbps in 4k60 in All-I and Long GOP in H.265 (could be a mistake, because 400mbps Long GOP in H.265 is VERY high), 200bps or 100 mbps in 4k30 and below (10 bit 4:2:0 in H.265 and 8 bit 4:2:0 in H.264). DPreview have a full table on https://***URL removed***/reviews/fujifilm-x-t3-first-impressions-review/2 If this camera had IBIS, would be shut up and take my money. Waiting for the real world reviews (as other cameras), but looks like a shot out of the park by Fuji. Amazing. According to the press release 4K60 is maxed at 200Mbps. This is from Slashcam, it explains everything pretty well: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 With h265 though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Yeah wouldn’t 400Mbps in h.265 be higher data rates than ProRes comparably? I’d love to see some footage of the 2K. All-i h.265 at 200mbps should be gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, mercer said: Yeah wouldn’t 400Mbps in h.265 be higher data rates than ProRes comparably? 4K 24p ProRes HQ = 754Mbps 4K 24p ProRes = 503Mbps 4K 24p ProRes LT = 350Mbps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Attila Bakos said: 4K 24p ProRes HQ = 754Mbps 4K 24p ProRes = 503Mbps 4K 24p ProRes LT = 350Mbps I remember when I had the NX500, it was 70mbps h.265 and it was compared to 120mbps, or so, of h.264. So out of curiosity, if 400Mbps in h.265 wasn’t not compressed, would it be at ProRes HQ levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, mercer said: I remember when I had the NX500, it was 70mbps h.265 and it was compared to 120mbps, or so, of h.264. So out of curiosity, if 400Mbps in h.265 wasn’t not compressed, would it be at ProRes HQ levels? While it's true that H.265 can have the same quality as H.264 with approx. 50% of the bitrate, it's only at low bitrates, like streaming. As far as I remember at such high bitrates like 400Mbps the difference would be almost non existent, but I can't show you any test at the moment that proves this, maybe someone else can. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, mercer said: I remember when I had the NX500, it was 70mbps h.265 and it was compared to 120mbps, or so, of h.264. So out of curiosity, if 400Mbps in h.265 wasn’t not compressed, would it be at ProRes HQ levels? H.265 is chosen because the ARM processors have 10bit HEVC hardware-accelerated encoding. At high bitrate, encoding efficiency/quality between H.264 and H.265 is identical. Kisaha and mercer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Why do pretty much every (if not all) sample video I have seen crush blacks. Even those I respect most and I thought would know better all had crushed blacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, Luke Mason said: H.265 is chosen because the ARM processors have 10bit HEVC hardware-accelerated encoding. At high bitrate, encoding efficiency/quality between H.264 and H.265 is identical. Nice to see that it’s not cropped in 4k24p, as you reported earlier ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Jimmy said: Damn! Matthew Libatique?? NICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinegang Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 As a solo hybrid shooter i've been waiting for an announcement like this. Had the a6000/nx500 for the longest time and rented a7sii's/gh5's/a7rii's as needed (aps-c is the sweet spot for me for most gigs). I've kept minimal native glass for the sole purpose of going all in on a system when the time is right. Now to see what Sony responds with.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelaxstudio Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 10BIT in 120P fhd! With eye AF in video mode canon is nowhere near it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, Simon Young said: Nice to see that it’s not cropped in 4k24p, as you reported earlier ? it's cropped in 50p/60p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 hours ago, mercer said: According to B&H, it has 2K up to 60p. That’s a cool feature. Any word on the bitrates? Wish more cameras would offer 2K as an option We need more than just the boring old UHD / 1080 / 720 resolutions in the usual 16:9! Give us ALL THE OPTIONS in aspect ratios and frame rates Geoff CB and mkabi 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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