hansel Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, Castorp said: I wonder. I didn’t pre-order until the end of September and the man in the store said I was first in line, guaranteed a Z6 on launch day. That was quite a while after the announcement. Where? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 i don't doubt for a moment that Castorp is telling the truth: but even the almighty B&H can't guarantee when a camera will be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 7 hours ago, IronFilm said: Just wait another year and I bet the mk2 from Nikon will bring you the 4K 60fps I wished. But getting tired of changing system and this mk2 will come in 2-4y. Wish I could stay with one brand and be done with it a few years. Latest rumors say no IBIS on A7SIII. It is starting to become a joke. We will have S1 with no video AF, A7S with no IBIS and rest of the world with no 4K60p. A joke that nobody wants to combine 4K60p FF with ibis with good AF... gethin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castorp Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I pre-ordered in a Calumet store (yes we still have Calumet here) in the Netherlands. The distribution situation seems different in different parts of the world. It was the same with the D850, it sold well but didn’t seem to be nearly as hard to get in Europe as in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 hours ago, wolf33d said: I wished. But getting tired of changing system and this mk2 will come in 2-4y. Wish I could stay with one brand and be done with it a few years. Latest rumors say no IBIS on A7SIII. It is starting to become a joke. We will have S1 with no video AF, A7S with no IBIS and rest of the world with no 4K60p. A joke that nobody wants to combine 4K60p FF with ibis with good AF... Sony's implimentation of IBIS is about as 'good' as Panasonic's AF. Choose your poison. The NIkon looks the most well rounded of the bunch so far to me, be interesting to see how Panasonic goes with the new FF Juank and Geoff CB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 11, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted October 11, 2018 The Z7 is far superior to the A7R III, and I own both. Guess which one will soon be available on eBay Nikkor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: The Z7 is far superior to the A7R III, and I own both. Guess which one will soon be available on eBay Comparison footage please with 120p too and XT3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 hours ago, ade towell said: Sony's implimentation of IBIS is about as 'good' as Panasonic's AF. Choose your poison. The NIkon looks the most well rounded of the bunch so far to me, be interesting to see how Panasonic goes with the new FF Ha! That is a good way to put it indeed. Sony's IBIS is just as "good"/bad as the Panasonic AF Nicely phrased and compared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/11/2018 at 6:18 PM, wolf33d said: I wished. But getting tired of changing system and this mk2 will come in 2-4y. Wish I could stay with one brand and be done with it a few years. Latest rumors say no IBIS on A7SIII. It is starting to become a joke. We will have S1 with no video AF, A7S with no IBIS and rest of the world with no 4K60p. A joke that nobody wants to combine 4K60p FF with ibis with good AF... The reason is simple, no company want's to cannibalize their own video camera business. People should understand that no company is some kind of saint who wants to give its customers everything for nothing. The Pana and Sony of this world have happily given a lot until now, but when you are reaching that threshold where you would reach 99% of what users would need so that many might never upgrade to their higher end camera, they start to get more conservative. For me one of the last barrier for that 99% was reach when Nikon introduced 10 bit at the Cinema 35mm and plus size. Not disregarding Pana Gh5, just about the right size would be apsc for me. If say a Nikon z7/6 came with everything they already have plus 60 or 120p 4k, how many would buy the next model. In case of Nikon, I think they are genuinely giving everything they have for that package. If it was not their first mirrorless camera and they could device one the size of a D5, perhaps they would have put 60p 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1DX2 does APS-H 4K60p. Nikon Z is 10-bit external as per Canon R.. nice but not 99% nice. if APS-C is enough then look no further then Fuji XT3.. 10-bit internal, 4K60p..FLOG / Eterna etc.. for $1500. or wait for XH2 with IBIS. or Pana S1 with FF RAW video.. always something better around the corner.. heh #neverendingstory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 12, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted October 12, 2018 I can guarantee the moment we get the miracle that is full frame 4K/60p, we will want medium format 4K/120p IronFilm, hansel, Geoff CB and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: I can guarantee the moment we get the miracle that is full frame 4K/60p, we will want medium format 4K/120p I want a Fuji 50s with 6K compressed raw Maybe in 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: I can guarantee the moment we get the miracle that is full frame 4K/60p, we will want medium format 4K/120p I want IMAX 8k 16bit 120p for 1999€, I already got the lenses hansel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Geoff CB said: I want a Fuji 50s with 6K compressed raw Maybe in 10 years. And it will have rolling shutter with telephone poles that will look like the palm trees during Hurricane Micheal just did. ? jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Since it has been conclusively demonstrated that Nikon’s sensor does not have any more freedom of movement than Sony’s, it gives hope that Sony will continue to improve their IBIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 The future is electronic. A sensor only has a couple of millimeters it can possibly physically move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, DBounce said: The future is electronic. A sensor only has a couple of millimeters it can possibly physically move. If so, Sony’s got the edge, as they are a technology juggernaut. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansel Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: I can guarantee the moment we get the miracle that is full frame 4K/60p, we will want medium format 4K/120p Haha, 4k60 is pretty much useless to anyone seriously interested in high image quality. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Nikon F mount glass with FTZ adapter not great for stills.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Robert Collins said: Nikon F mount glass with FTZ adapter not great for stills.... Nikon tuned the combination for accuracy, so the adquisition is slower but more accurate than the d850. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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