KnightsFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, hoodlum said: Nikon announced that ProRes Raw is coming in a future firmware update. Nikon also announced a Nikon Z 6 Filmmaker’s Kit for $4k. https://***URL removed***/news/7011682215/nikon-to-add-eye-af-raw-video-support-and-cfexpress-support-to-z-series Amazong. So is this the first hybrid camera to natively offer RAW video? I would never have guessed that Nikon would be first. IronFilm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Wow Nikon is the Last company I would have thought would go that route. That is amazing! Mark Romero 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It seems like its getting to be a mad race to the top. webrunner5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Nice to know : ) Wish 4K60p might be a reality as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 haha, poor Sony will have to postpone the a7SIII launch yet again Snowbro, IronFilm, webrunner5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I admit I'm shocked, but how they deliver 4k raw from 6k and 8k sensor? Its a crop or some kind of interpolation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_L Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Oh wow, unbelievable ! I was so happy about the Z6, but still uncertain about a possible firmware to fix some meh stuffs.... but this... shocked ahah ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Emanuel said: Nice to know : ) Wish 4K60p might be a reality as well... Let's not get too optimistic. Offering RAW output does not mean bypassing the underlying sensor readout drive limitations (sub-LVDS 12bit readout). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, androidlad said: Let's not get too optimistic. Offering RAW output does not mean bypassing the underlying sensor readout drive limitations (sub-LVDS 12bit readout). Hence to limit myself to dream about... ; ) Either way, still a milestone this upgrade no matter what : -) webrunner5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 My A7III look more and more outdated... IronFilm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasiliskFilm Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Well at the very least it looks like they are still working on updates which is good news. Maybe there will be improvements to AF beyond the addition of EyeAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 So is this the first camera to offer RAW over HDMI??? (I think most cameras that offer RAW either do it over SDI or USB C, don't they???) Or does the BMPCC4k have RAW over HDMI? Jeez... this is pretty tempting now. 4K 60p would be nice. And having N Log internally would be nice as well (but if I need to get a Ninja V for recording RAW then I guess it is a moot point, huh?) Darn... kind of wish I had held on to my Nikon glass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mark Romero 2 said: Or does the BMPCC4k have RAW over HDMI? I don't think it does - but the HDMI is limited to 1080p only. Since it does Internal RAW or to an SSD though, it wouldn't benefit from having it on HDMI - you can get the same end result with a much cheaper, or even no monitor. Mark Romero 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: I don't think it does - but the HDMI is limited to 1080p only. Since it does Internal RAW or to an SSD though, it wouldn't benefit from having it on HDMI - you can get the same end result with a much cheaper, or even no monitor. Thanks! So yeah, I guess that means the Z6 / Z7 will be the first to offer RAW over HDMI then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Brilliant, well done Nikon, game on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 What is the 4k rolling shutter ms of the Z6? Couldn't find it from a quick search online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted January 8, 2019 Super Members Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Snowbro said: What is the 4k rolling shutter ms of the Z6? Couldn't find it from a quick search online 23ms https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slashcam.de%2Fartikel%2FTest%2FDer-4K-Vollformat-Herausforderer-Nikon-Z6---Bildqualitaet-im-Videomodus--Rolling-Shutter---Fazit.html Snowbro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 23 ms in FF while 15 ms in 4K crop mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bowgett Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Eric Calabros said: I admit I'm shocked, but how they deliver 4k raw from 6k and 8k sensor? Its a crop or some kind of interpolation? The Z6 already downsamples from 6K to get its in-camera 4K output, so assuming it's done early enough in the processing pipeline they can send the output as RAW over HDMI instead of encoding it to h264 and writing it to the memory card. I have a feeling an APS-C crop might be necessary for raw output on the Z7, as the line-skipping it uses for full-sensor 4K would make for some fugly RAW video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I recall seeing some test that seemed to suggest that Prores Raw was no better than regular prores. What's the verdict? Is this really a big step up from log, or just hype? Does this mean the AF issues will be resolved when recording externally? It all seems rather compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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