Trek of Joy Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 16 hours ago, Geoff CB said: Wish I had the cash to grab a second body! Do you have a Gfilm profile for the Z? I still use that from time to time. Chris Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 8:41 AM, Trek of Joy said: Insane Z6/7 refurb deals at B&H... Z6 + 24-70/4, $1799 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1488631-REG/nikon_1598b_z_6_fx_camera_body.html Z6 Body only, $1349 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1488630-REG/nikon_1595b_z_6_fx_format_mirrorless.html Z7 Body only, $2299 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1488628-REG/nikon_1591b_z_7_fx_format_mirrorless.html Z7 + 24-70/4, $2699 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1488629-REG/nikon_1594b_z_7_fx_camera_body.html The first gen cams from Canon, Nikon and Panasonic are flatlining, prices are being pushed down fast. That Z6/lens combo is so tempting.... Chris If you need an XQD and the FTZ, the new kits work out to be about the same price. This thing is really tempting and I only know of one sure fire way to deal with temptation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Thomas Hill said: If you need an XQD and the FTZ, the new kits work out to be about the same price. This thing is really tempting and I only know of one sure fire way to deal with temptation ? The kit with a 32gb XQD and the FTZ is $600 more. A 64gb XQD is $130 and FTZ's are selling for less than $200 from people breaking up kits. I'm only looking B&H and used prices on Fred Miranda, not sure what anyone else is offering. There are other benefits to buying new if you want the full warranty and such, so I'm not ignoring that. Either way, what you get with the Z6 kits is a killer deal. Add $1000 for a Ninja V and a SSD and you have one hell of a photo/video combo that will be more of a use when the raw update is live. Chris Skip77 and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotheus Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Five day old video from Atomos. Clearly committed to proresRAW. See their comments as well. Still no release date although they say "soon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, Trek of Joy said: The kit with a 32gb XQD and the FTZ is $600 more. A 64gb XQD is $130 and FTZ's are selling for less than $200 from people breaking up kits. I'm only looking B&H and used prices on Fred Miranda, not sure what anyone else is offering. There are other benefits to buying new if you want the full warranty and such, so I'm not ignoring that. Either way, what you get with the Z6 kits is a killer deal. Add $1000 for a Ninja V and a SSD and you have one hell of a photo/video combo that will be more of a use when the raw update is live. Chris This is the kit I would like but I don't care about the case or cpl https://www.focuscamera.com/nikon-z6-mirrorless-camera-with-50mm-f-1-8-lens-and-ftz-mount-adapter-bundle.html I added the refurbished camera and refurbished FTZ plus new 50mm, 120gb XQD and new Nikon battery to my B&H cart. Total $2334 So that's a difference of about $285. And a person could save another $50 because B&H has a used one for $1299. I think I would go with the refurbished. But my propensity for giving into temptation is at war with my curiosity about the Sigma FP and what Sony is going to announce at the end of the month. It's like when you get on Netflix and there are too many choices except, in this case, the potentially better choices are theoretical and in the future. Trek of Joy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip77 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Nice review of the Z6, S1, A7III and EOS-R Here's some great Z6 footage. Classic case were AF follow focus through the touch screen beats manual focus. (Beats as in much easy and you can just get the shot and worry about the shot). This footage compares to the P4K and C200 in my eyes. Looks rich and deep data rate coverage. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Not my footage but clean. heart0less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeng Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Geoff CB said: Not my footage but clean. This one probably hasn't turned sharpening down in camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Zeng said: This one probably hasn't turned sharpening down in camera. Agreed, watched it on cell phone. Should have checked it on my desktop before posting Zeng 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Thomas Hill said: This is the kit I would like but I don't care about the case or cpl https://www.focuscamera.com/nikon-z6-mirrorless-camera-with-50mm-f-1-8-lens-and-ftz-mount-adapter-bundle.html I added the refurbished camera and refurbished FTZ plus new 50mm, 120gb XQD and new Nikon battery to my B&H cart. Total $2334 So that's a difference of about $285. And a person could save another $50 because B&H has a used one for $1299. I think I would go with the refurbished. But my propensity for giving into temptation is at war with my curiosity about the Sigma FP and what Sony is going to announce at the end of the month. It's like when you get on Netflix and there are too many choices except, in this case, the potentially better choices are theoretical and in the future. Agreed. I'm in a holding pattern until the fall announcements are live and Z6 raw is vetted. The Z6 and S1 are both really interesting, each has shortcomings that won't pull me from the a7III... yet. The Fp is the wildcard. My next camera will be 10-bit and have great AF, 4k60p is almost a must for me to upgrade/switch as well. I'm fully expecting to be letdown by Sony's next cameras - like 10-bit external only or something like that, but a new sensor and AF that grabs headlines and wow's the shill-bloggers. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Seems like the S1 is a pretty darn good choice still, and I am sure the S1H will really take the cake. That said the Z6 will likely be my first full frame camera. The prices on it are just insanely low used. Like any other camera if you get decent exposure and nail white balance your stuff will look good. Geoff CB, heart0less, webrunner5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Trek of Joy said: I'm fully expecting to be letdown by Sony's next cameras - like 10-bit external only You're sounding optimistic! I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's next couple of cameras don't even have that. Trek of Joy and heart0less 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 10 hours ago, IronFilm said: You're sounding optimistic! I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's next couple of cameras don't even have that. To be fair even Canon has that now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 9:19 AM, Trek of Joy said: Do you have a Gfilm profile for the Z? I still use that from time to time. Chris Really just using Wolfcrow's Cine 1 setting and just grading that. Files are flexible enough that as long as I protect highlights I can bring up the shadows while editing. FLAT is already a pretty great setting. Andrew's Log profile gives you DR but sacrifices to much color for my taste. Trek of Joy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeng Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Geoff CB said: Really just using Wolfcrow's Cine 1 setting and just grading that. Files are flexible enough that as long as I protect highlights I can bring up the shadows while editing. FLAT is already a pretty great setting. Andrew's Log profile gives you DR but sacrifices to much color for my taste. I believe all attempts at [pseudo] log at 8 bit sacrifice too much color.. IronFilm and Geoff CB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Zeng said: I believe all attempts at [pseudo] log at 8 bit sacrifice too much color.. Yeah I'm editing a documentary that was partial shot in S-log 3 on a A7rIII and it is a pain in the a**. IronFilm and Zeng 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Geoff CB said: Yeah I'm editing a documentary that was partial shot in S-log 3 on a A7rIII and it is a pain in the a**. I have been recommending everyone I know who shoots sony to use HLG over log. Sometimes clients like things to be delivered in log though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrteh Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 new nikon 85mm f1.8S really rock you,,, Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Shoo Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 The Z6 is looking even more tempting! I can’t remember if it has a crop when shooting 4k Full Frame. If it does that sorta defeats the purpose of grabbing a full frame camera. Anyways this looks impressive! Trek of Joy and Castorp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Alt Shoo said: The Z6 is looking even more tempting! I can’t remember if it has a crop when shooting 4k Full Frame. If it does that sorta defeats the purpose of grabbing a full frame camera. Anyways this looks impressive! It does not have a crop most of the time. Has a small 1.1 crop when shooting N-Log. From a recent creative shoot, frame grab from 1080p 60 fps Trek of Joy, Castorp and Alt Shoo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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