Shirozina Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Internal is 8bit 4.2.0 so not so good for C-LOG (did anyone else notice the horrendous banding in the skies on the video?) but at least it's 10bit ( and presumably 4.2.2) on the HDMI out. The variable ND filter is going to be a big plus feature and even at $400 it's not that expensive when you consider that good Vario ND's work out more than that if you need more than one for a set of lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 motion cadence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 5, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, jonpais said: motion cadence? Motion cadence is internal to the SD card but mojo is external through HDMI only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Shirozina said: Internal is 8bit 4.2.0 so not so good for C-LOG (did anyone else notice the horrendous banding in the skies on the video?) but at least it's 10bit ( and presumably 4.2.2) on the HDMI out. The variable ND filter is going to be a big plus feature and even at $400 it's not that expensive when you consider that good Vario ND's work out more than that if you need more than one for a set of lenses. You got to remember though that the early eos cinema cameras were 8 bit and clog was fine for them. Being 4k will be an advantage in this respect too. I don't see too much of an issue. It's not like you have to do a lot of grading like with the sony's to get a half decent image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 And I’ll no longer have to remember whether it’s in APS-C mode. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 According to BH, internal is 8bit 4:22 and there is a View assist LUT to monitor Canon Log as a graded image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: OK sorry have not read all the pages. But is there also a crop in 1080p? or is that full frame? As there is a crop in 4K, do you think metabones will build a speedbooster for this? I am hoping ML can crack this camera to unleash its full potential. Too bad the cameras is only 12 stops of DR. Seems quite low this day and age. ML isn't cracking anymore cameras, ML said Canon threatened to sue if they released any more builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mako Sports said: ML isn't cracking anymore cameras, ML said Canon threatened to sue if they released any more builds. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, jonpais said: Link? https://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/canon-legal-team-modify-hack-firmware-1d-x-1d-c also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, mercer said: According to BH, internal is 8bit 4:22 and there is a View assist LUT to monitor Canon Log as a graded image. That's a typo.. Canon state "4:2:0 8-bit internal": There is an 8-bit & 10-bit CLog setting...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, Django said: That's a typo.. Canon state "4:2:0 8-bit internal": There is an 8-bit & 10-bit CLog setting...? Internal is 8bit 420 only, HDMI outputs 8/10bit 422, C-log with BT709 or BT2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 5, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mako Sports said: ML isn't cracking anymore cameras, ML said Canon threatened to sue if they released any more builds. Nah, its because they don't know how to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Anyone do the math on the crop factor? it's looking way more than 1.6x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 39 minutes ago, Mako Sports said: https://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/canon-legal-team-modify-hack-firmware-1d-x-1d-c also Six year-old unconfirmed rumor from an unidentified source. Also, no mention of ML saying Canon threatened to sue. No comment at all from ML in the links you provided. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, Mako Sports said: https://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/canon-legal-team-modify-hack-firmware-1d-x-1d-c also 6 minutes ago, jonpais said: Six year-old non-confirmed rumor from an unidentified source. Also, no mention of ML saying Canon threatened to sue. No comment at all from ML in the links you provided. ? Supposedly, ML wanted to crack the 1DC but Canon threatened them and then never released FW to the public... you had to send it in for updates, I think. And without a public firmware, ML cannot perform a firmware dump and port a camera. But Canon never sued them and ML has cracked plenty of cameras since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 5, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, mercer said: Supposedly, ML wanted to crack the 1DC but Canon threatened them and then never released FW to the public... you had to send it in for updates, I think. And without a public firmware, ML cannot perform a firmware dump and port a camera. But Canon never sued them and ML has cracked plenty of cameras since then. The reason they didn't crack it is because there never was a public firmware update. So they don't know where to begin. The threatening part is just rumors so far. Probably the reason why the 5Div isn't cracked. Have to send it in to get C-log. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Mattias Burling said: The reason they didn't crack it is because there never was a public firmware update. So they don't know where to begin. The threatening part is just rumors so far. Probably the reason why the 5Div isn't cracked. Have to send it in to get C-log. ahh well that's pretty sneaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, Django said: Anyone do the math on the crop factor? it's looking way more than 1.6x EOS R: 6720/3840=1.75 5D4: 6720/4096=1.64 3 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: The reason they didn't crack it is because there never was a public firmware update. So they don't know where to begin. The threatening part is just rumors so far. Probably the reason why the 5Div isn't cracked. Have to send it in to get C-log. Just to let you know, there are many ways ML can obtain a firmware dump without any public update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 It’s a step in the right direction at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 5, 2018 Super Members Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Luke Mason said: Just to let you know, there are many ways ML can obtain a firmware dump without any public update. In sure there is. But they haven't got the right tools, otherwise the job would have been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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