Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 2, 2018 Administrators Share Posted September 2, 2018 Nikon Z7 has it for breakfast. About the only improvement over the 5D Mark IV seems to be substituting MJPEG for H.264. Not that it was overdue or anything! https://www.eoshd.com/2018/09/here-are-the-official-video-specs-of-the-canon-eos-r-full-frame-mirrorless/ About only thing I can hope for is that the 4K is somehow full frame and not a crop but I honestly just think it is a 5D Mark IV in a mirrorless body, looking at the specs sheet, rather than anything really new. IronFilm, wolf33d, arant.joseph and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelbb Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Except these aren't the official Canon EOS R video specs are they? We will apparently have to wait until September 5th for the official launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 2, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted September 2, 2018 Yes they are official. Sorry to disappoint you. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CAZOijAyrUJcOMWNHbjFpGq2CznrIAoN arant.joseph and Eno 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keessie65 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Did they try to copy Samsung NX1?. Nowadays you'll expect much more from a camera. No IBIS, NO 4K 50 or 60fps. Dissapointing, but we have to wait till September 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Popular Post Andrew Reid Posted September 2, 2018 Author Administrators Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 NX1 is actually more advanced with H.265, 6K readout, 1080/120fps and it is 5 years old. Juank, iamoui, Goose and 12 others 12 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 2, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Jn- said: The uhd data rate at 480mbps ALL-I is good, fhd at 90mbps 24fps not too bad either, athough GH5 fhd is 200mbps. SD card is cheaper than say CFast. 480Mbit is similar to MJPEG. It's inefficient. Per frame, no quality increase over the 120Mbit IPB. arant.joseph, EthanAlexander and Eno 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 My XC10 had a high bitrate codec and it was terrible quality in UHD so don't expect miracles as it's the codec and compression method that's important and not the bitrate. Also no mention if it's 4.2.0 or 4.2.2 chroma subsampling and I assume it's 8 bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelbb Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 58 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Yes they are official. Sorry to disappoint you. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CAZOijAyrUJcOMWNHbjFpGq2CznrIAoN You have proof that this isn't a fake? It's easy enough to create an impressive PDF showing whatever video specs that you want. That document is on Google Drive not on www.canon.com JeremyDulac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Oh well despite the 28-70 F2 this isn’t something to look forward. And this means the path is free for Panasonic‘s Fullframe PDAF GH5 ? B karin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0fe Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On paper, I'm disappointed but not totally surprised. It's a totally conservative move done so they can drip feed updates on future camera models while protecting the cinema. It's a step in the right direction. I'm interested in the new lenses and the secondary control ring more than the camera now. Looking forward to the Panasonic announcement, they are sure to at least be on par with Sony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Yeah this is the Vlogger model. EOS R with Canon Log edition coming second quarter of 2020. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wouldn't hold my breath. Canon slapped a 8-bit 4:2:0 codec in their $7,500 C200.. no way they're going 10-bit on their entry MILC. That's not the Canon way. IronFilm, foliovision, Juank and 5 others 2 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I would kind of be amazed if it doesn't have 10bit with HDMI out. Both the Nikon Z6 and Z7 have 10 bit out. You know Canon and Nikon have moles in each others company's. I can't believe Canon would let Nikon outdo them with that spec. Now with no IBIS stated that sounds crazy in this day and age if true. That would be almost a given if they want to go for the Vlogger crowd. At least it has a flippy screen. ? Mark Romero 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, Jn- said: Your XC10 is a small senor, slow lens system. Most likely one of the reasons that it has a high data rate was to attempt to overcome those deficits. How does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: I would kind of be amazed if it doesn't have 10bit with HDMI out. Both the Nikon Z6 and Z7 have 10 bit out. You know Canon and Nikon have moles in each others company's. I can't believe Canon would let Nikon outdo them with that spec. Don't forget that Nikon doesn't have a cinema line of cameras to protect. I bet no 10-bit anything. noplz and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, ajay said: Don't forget that Nikon doesn't have a cinema line of cameras to protect. I bet no 10-bit anything. Sad to say you are probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Nikon has the freedom of not cannibalizing a video camera lines. If I was Nikon I would make even a more video centric version just to put pressure on Canon and Sony to cannibalize their video product line or even take some business away from them. If they were able to make a larger version with a screen that flipped out and internal recording, perhaps even better IBIS video (approach GH5) they would put so much pressure on Canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Maybe when their sales figures suffer they will add C-Log for $100. OliKMIA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 No IBIS, no Log, no 10-bit, Cropped 4K is my guess. No 120fps in 1080p already confirmed. I think the EOS R is mainly focused on stills and video for the casual / vlogger people (DPAF & Flip screen is what they'll put forward). For serious uncompromised video Canon invites you to try their C line of products. AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Hopefully I'm wrong but my bet is that it will have a 4k crop. With the stated still horizontal resolution of 6720, a 1:1 quad-hd 3840 wide crop will be a 1.75x crop. Other people have already mentioned that this was the crop for the 5d mk4 when it came out. They decreased the crop with a firmware update but it required a better head sink being installed. Will this have a big heat sink from the start? I guess we'll have to wait and see. But if it is a 1.75 crop it doesn't represent a good value proposition. The GH5s and bmpcc4k have a 1.85 crop so not much difference, and no chance the canon will come close to matching their other specs. Can you imagine spending all that money on a full frame camera and expensive ridiculously heavy full frame f2 zoom lens and then you can only utilise 33% of it? When you can practically achieve the same thing with a £500 worth of crop sensor camera and lens. I actually think that 28 - 70 with an f2 max aperture is really useful range for an apsc sensor, but if it didn't need to cover full frame it could be a damn sight lighter than 1.5kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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