Attila Bakos Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 22 hours ago, androidlad said: Fujifilm just released F-log to Bleach Bypass LUT, it's only included in X-T4 folder but it can be used on all F-log capable Fujifilm cameras: https://dl.fujifilm-x.com/support/lut/F-Log_LUT_E_Ver.1.16.zip It seems this LUT is not up to Fuji's standards, it has a few weird transitions: heart0less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Attila Bakos said: It seems this LUT is not up to Fuji's standards, it has a few weird transitions: Well I guess it's called bleach for a reason... 😁 I'm sure you can fix it with your nice package of tools 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I was just reviewing some old footage I took in flog at 2k and noticed some pretty bad smearing in the shadows. Really ugly. I thought maybe it was premiere doing something weird but resolve looks the same and it looks the same when rendered. Nothing done to the footage besides the Fuji WDR Lut. zoomed in at 220% to show the issue more but its certainly visible. Check the shadows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 What codec and bit rate do you use? No problems here, though I shoot HLG @400Mbps All-I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 hours ago, androidlad said: Well I guess it's called bleach for a reason... 😁 I'm sure you can fix it with your nice package of tools 😉 A simple LUT smoothing fixes it, it's easy to do in Matlab, but I couldn't create an online version yet. It's on the todo list Stathman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 13 hours ago, heart0less said: What codec and bit rate do you use? No problems here, though I shoot HLG @400Mbps All-I. I believe it was 2k 200mbps Just shot some tests at 2k 100mbps Long GOP, no issues in the shadows. Really weirded out wtf is this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: I believe it was 2k 200mbps Just shot some tests at 2k 100mbps Long GOP, no issues in the shadows. Really weirded out wtf is this It's the infamous F-log banding/macro-blocking, discussed before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, androidlad said: It's the infamous F-log banding/macro-blocking, discussed before. My lord that is bad. Fuji needs to fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 29, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 11:03 PM, thebrothersthre3 said: I was just reviewing some old footage I took in flog at 2k and noticed some pretty bad smearing in the shadows. Really ugly. I thought maybe it was premiere doing something weird but resolve looks the same and it looks the same when rendered. Nothing done to the footage besides the Fuji WDR Lut. zoomed in at 220% to show the issue more but its certainly visible. Check the shadows You need up your bitrate and resolution to avoid compression artefacts. Try shooting Long GOP as well instead of ALL-I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 In a most scenes, without fast panning or water or lots of random-ish motion, modern LongGOP is very very good and offers better compression than ALL-I. I don’t see any difference between 150Mbps longGOP and 400 Mbps ALL-I from my GH5S unless the footage contains waves, lots of splashing water, or leafs blowing in the wind on a tree. HEVC (H.265) based LongGOP is even better and since most modern hardware is now incorporating HEVC acceleration hardware for easy decoding and encoding I see even less of a disadvantage to using it. Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: You need up your bitrate and resolution to avoid compression artefacts. Try shooting Long GOP as well instead of ALL-I. I was shooting Long GOP, but yeah maybe it was just the 2k that did it. Can't seem to replicate it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 So, to get the most out of X-T3 you actually recommend Long GOP @400 Mbps, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josdr Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 4/7/2020 at 12:05 PM, Papiskokuji said: Hi ! The eterna LUT is to use if you don’t have a color checker. You could actually use it before applying the color checker correction nod but there’s no point to it. For the gamma question, I can’t remember what gamma there is in Resolve. You can try gamma input « slog2 » as it’s not far from flog gamma and I usually do a blackmagic 4k gamma output as rec709 crushes everything. But most of the time, I put the same gamma Space input and output so the color checker only corrects colors and put me back to some rec709 color Space, and I adjust the gamma curve myself in another nod, so I have more control. But overall, if you don’t have to match your XT3 with other cameras, I’d suggest You apply the fuji WDR lut (the one which only affects colors, i can’t remember the exact name) so you’re back to a rec709 colorspace but with fuji’s touch. And then in another nod, you apply a custom curve. I have gorgeous results with this simple workflow. and finally, another method is to use color transform and put « gamma input flog » « color Space input rec2020 » gamma output « blackmagic 4k (same as above) » « color Space output rec709 ». There You go, 3 methods to normalize your flog image. I encourage you to use the second one if you wanna keep fuji colors. Thank you very much for this informative tutorial. I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I dreamt it or Fuji opened their system to third party lenses, allowing AF lenses from other vendors? Any new in this front? I love the kit lens and have a 23mm f2 and 50mm f2. I am very happy with them, but would love more choices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Xavier Plágaro Mussard said: I dreamt it or Fuji opened their system to third party lenses, allowing AF lenses from other vendors? Any new in this front? I love the kit lens and have a 23mm f2 and 50mm f2. I am very happy with them, but would love more choices! Viltrox 23mm 1.4 and 33mm 1.4 Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Weather today was awful and I didn't have much to do, so I grabbed a slider, designed and 3D printed by my friend, put a X-T3 on top, attached a projection lens to it and then took a couple of shots. I sat down to review them and thought: why not add some sound to it, play with it just a little while and actually publish the finished result? So here it is, really short mock-up opening credits I made. Not one of the most elegant timelines, but this have to do for now: IronFilm, Stathman and Emanuel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 7, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted June 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, heart0less said: Weather today was awful A fellow Brit?! heart0less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, heart0less said: (...) I grabbed a slider, designed and 3D printed by my friend, put a X-T3 on top (...) Seems very interesting, my friend, don't wanna to give us more about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: A fellow Brit?! A fellow Pole! 30 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Seems very interesting, my friend, don't wanna to give us more about it? Wanna see more shots of how much dust there is on my bicycle? (( : Re: slider - sure, I'll write something about it once it's fully ready to roll! Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, heart0less said: A fellow Pole. Wanna see more shots of how much dust there is on my bicycle? (( : Man, everything I've seen by you pops up out from there so splendid that any dust coming is cinematic... hehe ; ) But I meant on your rig this time : ) Just curious (E : -) heart0less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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