Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 16, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2018 We wonder why Canon continue to sell more cameras than Sony and Panasonic? Read the full article Cas1, heart0less and eyesuncloudedphoto 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 This wasn't even acceptable in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 16, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2018 it's the worst I've seen for 2 years straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I don't think it's because they were wined and dined but rather a lack of a thorough review. (Some reviewers even state that their review is preliminary.) I think most of us have been around the block enough times that we take these reviews with a grain of salt. One of my personal favorite reviewers is Gordon Laing of Camera Labs. He does thorough reviews and just published his review of the EOS R and does mention the extremely bad rolling shutter. Even without reviewers mentioning the bad rolling shutter, It is quite noticeable in sample clips. It is really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Wow that is bad. And, here I thought you guys are probably blowing it out of proportion, but you aren't even panning that fast or pausing to show the skew. Its weird, is it the same in the 5D mark iv? Just asking cause of their similarities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingerson Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Sort of makes my Sony A7s RS look good LoL. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Yeah that rolling shutter is unacceptably high especially in late 2018 when they have so much competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forofilms Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Shills. After that many cocktails, everything looked wobbly. OniBaba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 16, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2018 In the end, the results speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 It was tested a while ago, 30.45ms rolling shutter in 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 16, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2018 Go to 5:52. Richard Butler literally does a jello hand-sweep in the background whilst Rishi contradicts him saying that the rolling shutter is improved. Then he says it might still be problematic for "some" people. Then they move on. That doesn't even count as a proper mention to me. It's just a weird aside in amidst a ton of positives. They keep highlighting positive after positive and Richard is relegated to the status of mime artist. They should have let Richard speak. He knows his stuff technically. Yes it is around 30ms. The GH5 and X-T3 are in the region of 14ms. So it is double the distortion you'll see. DOUBLE! Not 10%, not 20%, not slightly improved, but 100% more slant. Actually what 5.52 shows is that Chris and Jordan were aware of the rolling shutter problem BEFORE they did the full review video, yet chose not to mention it in the full review.... Why? They should literally do a follow-up video about the limitations to balance things out. Fro's video breaks the FTC rules on full disclosure. He doesn't even disclose that Canon paid for his travel and accommodation in Hawaii. He just vaguely puts it out there that he's talking from a Canon press event with palm trees in the background. "They invited a bunch of us out here". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Allegre Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 It doesn't sound so terrible on paper (on par with many other FFs) until you remember it's a 1.7x crop. webrunner5 and Mako Sports 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelaxstudio Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 The ideal vlogging camera just happened to be a vlogger‘s first kill~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 thats what we call *Rolling Shitter Cas1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keessie65 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: it's the worst I've seen for 2 years straight. NX1 still better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 16, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2018 To be fair, the rolling shutter is also pretty shit on the NX1 - but that is doing a 6K readout, no crop, and it's 4 years old!! If the EOS R were a laptop, it'd run DOS. keessie65, Nikkor, noplz and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 16, 2018 Super Members Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Drew Allegre said: It doesn't sound so terrible on paper (on par with many other FFs) until you remember it's a 1.7x crop. Yeah but let's not forget the a6300 which is way worse. Im not saying that makes it right, it doesn't. But we shouldn't let the others of the hook just because we found a fresher fish. EDIT: forgot about the NX1 (easily done these days ), equally bad or even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forofilms Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Releasing a camera in October 2018 and not include 4K 60p is DOA in my opinion. I can accept the crop, single card slot and RS, but not the lack of 60p. Not when other cheaper cameras are offering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 16, 2018 Super Members Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, forofilms said: Not when other cheaper cameras are offering it. Full Frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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