IronFilm Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1185424-REG/sony_pxw_fs5_xdcam_super_35.html Spotted the news when I was checking up on the HiSpeedCamera website: http://www.hispeedcams.com/sony-fs5-240fps-full-hd-camera-gets-750-price-drop/ Didn't realise a new FS5 had dropped to well under four grand. But I had already noticed the prices of a FS5 on eBay had been steadily trending down this year. So while the the FS700 had become more and more attractive (around US$1.5K ish is a common price on eBay for a FS700), if the FS5 comes down in price to only be another $1K more (as I'm sure the price drop on a new FS5 will apply pressure to eBay prices!) then it might be a tough ask to buy a FS700 when the FS5 is only a little more. Hmmmm..... But the Sony PMW-F3 on eBay for as low as possibly US$750ish itself for a whole camera (the FS5 price drop equals a whole F3!) remains attractive, especially as I wouldn't need to buy a new recorder at all for a 2nd F3 camera. (although in the last month or two the low end floor price of an F3 seems to have trended back up to $1K, I dunno... just a momentary blip I assume in the overall inevitable decline in prices for everything) Plus of course let's not forget the new BMPCC4K and the many other mirrorless cameras recently released. Mmmbeats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Meh even at 2k I would not buy the FS5. I don't like the image or the handling of the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 yuh $3.5K aint bad, lower than most used FS5s were going for last month on Ebay. Extremely temping for me as I shoot sports and utilize slow-motion on the regular. Would be a nice step up from my Z90 which has the same specs but its a Super 35 ILC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, Mako Sports said: yuh $3.5K aint bad, lower than most used FS5s were going for last month on Ebay. Yup, earlier this year then $3.5K might have been barely above the floor of the lowest price you could get lucky to find a FS5 for on eBay. But with a price drop, I'd hope they should get down to sub $2.5K during 2019 The FS5 might not be everyone's cup of tea, but for your general purpose run of the mill corporate/tv/web work then the FS5 is solid choice. The Sony FS5 is basically Sony's version of the classic Canon C100 workhorse. In fact when I look back at the last half dozen invoices I sent recently for my sound work, then half of them the camera crew was using a FS5! (heh, just how the cookie crumbled recently though. Across the whole year the average would be much lower I've seen FS5 cameras) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 That internal variable ND is REALLY hard to pass up, even when going back to a traditional video camera with the standard 3 fixed NDs 51 minutes ago, IronFilm said: The FS5 might not be everyone's cup of tea, but for your general purpose run of the mill corporate/tv/web work then the FS5 is solid choice. The Sony FS5 is basically Sony's version of the classic Canon C100 workhorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted October 24, 2018 Super Members Share Posted October 24, 2018 I've seen some very interesting stuff on YouTube with the FS5 and ProResRAW. I don't know whether Atomos would do it but the AtomX expansion port would be a great way to for them to have an add on to add SDI and ProResRAW to the Ninja V. A used FS5 with that would probably be $3.5K ish which is a lot of bang for the buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The variable electronic ND will always draw me to this camera. That level of control over exposure cannot be undervalued. On my radar to pick up at some point. Mako Sports 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekBeast Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 What do you guys think about this vs an eva1 for wedding cinematography? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, GreekBeast said: What do you guys think about this vs an eva1 for wedding cinematography? EVA 1 is more in line with the FS7.. both price and specs at least. Pretty overkill for weddings imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, GreekBeast said: What do you guys think about this vs an eva1 for wedding cinematography? C100 mark II. The best for weddings bar none. I'm more interested in in the FS5 for film/corporate Mako Sports 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BTM_Pix said: I don't know whether Atomos would do it but the AtomX expansion port would be a great way to for them to have an add on to add SDI and ProResRAW to the Ninja V. Am pretty sure there will be a SDI expansion. The bigger question is if they'll support SDI and TC? I doubt it, but one can dream! Otherwise the 7Q+ will remain as a much better choice for me. 1 hour ago, BTM_Pix said: A used FS5 with that would probably be $3.5K ish which is a lot of bang for the buck. I bet in 2019 I used FS5 + Ninja V will go for much less, sub $3K is attainable. 51 minutes ago, GreekBeast said: What do you guys think about this vs an eva1 for wedding cinematography? I'd want the EVA1 for sure, for a range of reasons: better internal codecs, timecode, etc But also a new EVA1 costs nearly three times the amount of what soon a secondhand FS5 on ebay will cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekBeast Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Geoff some clients want 4k. Currently I own a gh5 /w sigma 18-35 so I think c100mkii its a step backwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Went and hunted down what the past sale prices of the Panasonic EVA1 on eBay, sadly only two in their history ? And it looks like you've only save seven hundred bucks by going secondhand with a FS5. 7 minutes ago, GreekBeast said: Geoff some clients want 4k. Currently I own a gh5 /w sigma 18-35 so I think c100mkii its a step backwards No slow motion either with the C100 either (60fps 1080 hardly counts does it?), and a few other features missing too like no SDI output and no mirrorless mount (EF mount.... biggest downside of the EVA1!). Oh, and the C100 has no 10bit internal! Also Sony gives you fun features Canon never has in a C100, such as live streaming over WiFi from the FS5: C100mk2 and FS5 are however identical prices now: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1086125-REG/canon_eos_c100_cinema_eos.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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