sobrietyrefund Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Has anyone tried this battery yet? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M189SS0/?coliid=I33WHI7E6PDH3Q&colid=2EDHPHW59ZKRA&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenscamera Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Does anyone knows how much current this camera draws when not using a SSD via the USB - C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrubloc Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I had already posted this same info in the main Pocket 4K thread as I forgot that there was a separate thread created for discussion of media/power options for the Pocket 4K here. ..... There is currently a small discount on offer from B&H (until Nov 3rd) and Amazon for the Samsung T5 in 500GB and 1TB sized versions. If anyone is interested in possibly using them with the Pocket4K here are some links. Samsung T5 SSD 500GB - $107.99 (w/ discount) https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1346577-REG/samsung_mu_pa500b_am_t5_500gb_portable_ssd.html https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T5-Portable-SSD-MU-PA500B/dp/B073GZBT36?th=1 Samsung T5 SSD 1TB - $227.99 (w/ discount) https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1346575-REG/samsung_mu_pa1t0b_am_t5_1tb_portable_ssd.html https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T5-Portable-SSD-MU-PATB/dp/B073H552FJ?th=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenscamera Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 This guy talks about the core SWX Powerbase Edge in this video. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 How about this; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FM-F970-NP-F-Battery-Power-Supply-Plate-Mount-System-for-Canon-LP-E6-DC-Battery/292764515022?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D52945%26meid%3Dcb342a62acf24727b4182aea69271c61%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D9%26sd%3D132771711548%26itm%3D292764515022&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Not strictly 'alternative' but I just got some Neewer brand (which work well on my GH5) LP-E6 batteries and they show the battery % and voltage on the P4k. They are also dirt cheap on Ebay at <£10 each! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, Shirozina said: How about this; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FM-F970-NP-F-Battery-Power-Supply-Plate-Mount-System-for-Canon-LP-E6-DC-Battery/292764515022?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D52945%26meid%3Dcb342a62acf24727b4182aea69271c61%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D9%26sd%3D132771711548%26itm%3D292764515022&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Not strictly 'alternative' but I just got some Neewer brand (which work well on my GH5) LP-E6 batteries and they show the battery % and voltage on the P4k. They are also dirt cheap on Ebay at <£10 each! do they have similar run times as the originals ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirozina Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, leslie said: do they have similar run times as the originals ? I'll test them next week and report back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Freeze Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 My BMD Cable-Set for the Pocket 4K shipped today. I´m expecting it to receive it on monday/tuesday. Let´s see how much runtime I´m getting from my external Batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Freeze said: My BMD Cable-Set for the Pocket 4K shipped today. Where did you order from? I can't find anywhere that's even on the same continent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Freeze Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Anaconda_ said: Where did you order from? I can't find anywhere that's even on the same continent! I ordered from videodata: https://www.videodata.de/shop/products/de/Nonlinear-Video/Hardware/I-O-Karten/Blackmagic-Pocket-Camera-DC-Cable-Pack.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Brilliant. Ordered mine. Says 3-4 weeks for delivery though. I guess they're made to order haha. @BTM_Pix - Did you find a set yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted November 10, 2018 Super Members Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Anaconda_ said: @BTM_Pix - Did you find a set yet? Got one on order with the same twelth of never delivery date. I'll try in Berlin on Monday if deliveries have started happening in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Anaconda_ said: Brilliant. Ordered mine. Says 3-4 weeks for delivery though. I guess they're made to order haha. Whay What exactly does it do? Why so expensive and rare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted November 10, 2018 Super Members Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kisaha said: What exactly does it do? Why so expensive and rare? It gives you three cables with the 2 pin DC input on the end. (Dtap, DC Barrel and bare wire.) So you can power it from different battery solutions or even fabricate one yourself with the bare end. The 2 pin locking DC connectors themselves are between £10-15 each (and you have to hunt them down as while they are not proprietary to BM they are not a standard part in any electrical store) so the price is not too bad. As to why they are so rare, that is just a good old fashioned balls up as far as I'm concerned as they should have been available from day one. You'd have to think cables were the easy part of this particular project really so I don't understand it. It has also left BM open to a lot of heat literally and figuratively regarding running it on batteries. I have been working on the camera with it sat powered from the mains for hours on end (literally 8 and 9 hour days) and it produces barely any heat but within 10 minutes of then doing the same off the internal battery it is getting plenty warm. So for me this cable pack is not just about having ways to get longer run times any more but also about not running it on the internal battery unless absolutely necessary because the heat generation is a long term concern. Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 This seems like a more powerful version of the USB charger idea. It has a mains outlet on it, so can use the cameras charger cable and still have a real battery in the camera for backup when this runs out. Price seems pretty good right now too. https://www.kamera-express.nl/product/12218258 Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Nice find @Anaconda_ : ) BTW, are you Dutch or located in the tulips land? : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslnc Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Batteries: I bought two Dynacore LP-E6 batteries however they last less than the BM battery since they are 7,2V / 1800mAh / 12,96Wh and not 7,4V / 2000mAh / 14,8Wh as the BM battery. So they last less. Buy quite a bit. At least it feels like that. Not recommended (the shop recommended them for the BMPCC4K so I didn't double check the specs...) However at least they show linear % value in the camera ( not like the BM battery that gives a super odd and jumpy readout without % ) Thinking of trying this: (25% extra capacity than the BM battery) https://www.amazon.com/Opteka-2600mAh-Capacity-Battery-Digital/dp/B00CHT37LQ Storage: Besides a couple of 64GB V90 sd cards (great for up to 4K DCI 25fps prores HQ/ 1080p120 prores HQ) I have a Sandisk Extreme portable SSD 500GB. It works great with raw as well up to 4K DCI 60fps 3:1 raw without dropped frames. (400+MB/s write speed) Emanuel and greenscreen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Thanks @dslnc, my next purchase! : -) ...and end of crying babies over here whining on lack of power solutions (doesn't make any sense) Anyways, much better to put a few inside your bag or pocket, than actually this -- at least to me: (for continuous recording take a look on the first page of this thread!) greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslnc Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I noticed today that when using the external usb C drive (at least mine) it takes some seconds before it is available to record on. After booting/turning on the camera! The more full the ssd is, the longer it takes. With 350GB occupied it takes the camera around 6s extra to calculate available recording time and indexing clips or something. So the 3-4s startup time suddenly gets 2-3x longer. That should (hopefully)be fixable with a firmware update. is the behaviour the same on big SD/CF cards? Update: My ssd is ExFat formatted, Will try with HFS+ and report back it it acts different. greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, dslnc said: I noticed today that when using the external usb C drive (at least mine) it takes some seconds before it is available to record on. After booting/turning on the camera! The more full the ssd is, the longer it takes. With 350GB occupied it takes the camera around 6s extra to calculate available recording time and indexing clips or something. So the 3-4s startup time suddenly gets 2-3x longer. That should (hopefully)be fixable with a firmware update. is the behaviour the same on big SD/CF cards? Really pertinent information, thanks for reporting : ) 35 minutes ago, dslnc said: Update: My ssd is ExFat formatted, Will try with HFS+ and report back it it acts different. Please. Rather useful information : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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