thephoenix Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 actually they sell a pack with the follow focus motor which is a bit more expensive. i think follow focus button will be compatible with some cameras such as gh5 and sony, just use a cable and focus will be handled by the gimball not so sure it can do that with BM4K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, thephoenix said: actually they sell a pack with the follow focus motor which is a bit more expensive. i think follow focus button will be compatible with some cameras such as gh5 and sony, just use a cable and focus will be handled by the gimball not so sure it can do that with BM4K Well a good follow focus is completely manual so it should not matter what camera is on it. You should be controlling the lenses and not the camera. So the nucleus N sure has the advantage over there. But DJI will release some competition soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 well i guess it controls the camera and the camera is controlling the lenses so it is about the same. at least you have one apendix less if you can control focus with the gimball, makes it lighters too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, zerocool22 said: Well a good follow focus is completely manual so it should not matter what camera is on it. You should be controlling the lenses and not the camera. So the nucleus N sure has the advantage over there. But DJI will release some competition soon. That's what the Zhiyun focus is. You put the cable tie thing around the lens and the motors pushes or pulls it around. The one on the Ronin S is entirely software driven, and it's made that gimbal drop significantly in my 'which gimbal should I get?' list. Titla's option is nice, but a lot more expensive than Zhiyun's offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, thephoenix said: well i guess it controls the camera and the camera is controlling the lenses so it is about the same. at least you have one apendix less if you can control focus with the gimball, makes it lighters too Its not the same, how is your camera going to focus manual lenses I wonder.. Just now, Anaconda_ said: That's what the Zhiyun focus is. You put the cable tie thing around the lens and the motors pushes or pulls it around. The one on the Ronin S is entirely software driven, and it's made that gimbal drop significantly in my 'which gimbal should I get?' list. Titla's option is nice, but a lot more expensive than Zhiyun's offering. The one which is available now is yeah. but not the one that is rumoured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, zerocool22 said: Its not the same, how is your camera going to focus manual lenses I wonder.. of course, i was thinking only about af lenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: I have the Crane 2. Doesn't mount on it out of the box, Pocket 4K is too wide. My fear on the new and small size offer by them... Hope they are fully aware of this new tool without IBIS... but targeted to run-'n-gun filmmaking anyway as no one ever before (go figure 4K RAW for such price ; -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1:34 - Included with the unit is going to be the external focus gear and external lens support for longer manual lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 and this comment from b&h "B&H Photo Video The Weebill Lab Gimbal is really geared towards Mirrorless Cameras. We would not recommend it with a camera like the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. It may not properly balance. Thanks! -Joey P" don't know why as the weight isn't an issue, size is not a problem for the ronin s so shlouldn't be one either here 14 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: 1:34 - Included with the unit is going to be the external focus gear and external lens support for longer manual lenses. here is your answer form the b&h website Zhiyun-Tech WEEBILL LAB Q&A 5 Questions, 2 Answers Most Common Questions 1 ANSWERS Will this come with the Servo Follow focus attachment? Asked by Dane on Nov 1, 2018 Add Answer I Have This Question Too 8 Looks like there are 3 different packages for the WEEBILL. Standard (without the follow focus servo). Seems B&H only has the Standard Package available. See the Zhiyun Store for more info. Package Including: 1 x Zhiyun WEEBILL LAB Kit 1 x EACHSHOT Cleaning Cloth Creator Package; Package Including: 1 x Zhiyun WEEBILL LAB Kit 1 x Follow Focus Controller 1 x Qick Setup Kit 1 x Mini Monopod 1 x Phone Holder 1 x Camera Belt 1 x EACHSHOT Cleaning Cloth Master Package; Package Including: 1 x Zhiyun WEEBILL LAB Kit 1 x CMF-04 Servo Follow Focus 1 x Quick Setup Kit 1 x Mini Monopod 1 x Phone Holder 1 x Camera Belt 1 x Gimbal Bag 1 x EACHSHOT Cleaning Cloth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Well then is there a difference between the 'Creator Package Follow Focus Controller' and the 'Master Package CMF-04 Servo Follow Focus' Why have just the controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kisaha Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, zerocool22 said: Yeah the crane 3 might stur things up again. The ronin s might be heavier. But smoothness is the most important aspect for me. I dont shoot hours in a gimbal. Just 10 second clips, so I think I can manage 10 seconds of holding this setup. A very light setup could need extra weight, and other (re-) arrangements to stabilize sufficiently. That applies to every mounting method (tripods, monopods, sliders, e.t.c) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenscamera Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, thephoenix said: and this comment from b&h "B&H Photo Video The Weebill Lab Gimbal is really geared towards Mirrorless Cameras. We would not recommend it with a camera like the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. It may not properly balance. Thanks! -Joey P" don't know why as the weight isn't an issue, size is not a problem for the ronin s so shlouldn't be one either here 1 I don't know why they will say that too as I am eying this gimbal for the P4K especially with their follow focus. I guess I will keep waiting and see if that's possible when the gimbal get's released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthere Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Quite interested in the Weebill, it seems it does work with the P4K and some additional weights.. and some strange auto-translation english.. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenscamera Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: Well then is there a difference between the 'Creator Package Follow Focus Controller' and the 'Master Package CMF-04 Servo Follow Focus' Why have just the controller? My understanding is the Creator package has just a controller but the Master Package has the CMF-04 servo follow focus with the controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 These Koreans have excellent style and posture! I thought the Weebill would be P4K ready, I do not like all these mods to make a very modern and recent gimbal to work. I will be waiting for the official release, but I believe they will have something ready for it very soon. They are also from the same continent (the Weebill bird and the Black Magic company), so they have to figure it out! Emanuel, matthere and Lenscamera 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, thephoenix said: don't know why as the weight isn't an issue, size is not a problem for the ronin s so shlouldn't be one either here For a simple reason, the matter is not centered on weight but form factor, that is, in two words: design and size. That's all! : ) 2 hours ago, thephoenix said: and this comment from b&h "B&H Photo Video The Weebill Lab Gimbal is really geared towards Mirrorless Cameras. We would not recommend it with a camera like the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. It may not properly balance. Thanks! -Joey P" Seems the doubt is most likely cleared up. Hopefully, Crane 3 LAB addresses the Pocket 4K... without quirks. shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, matthere said: Quite interested in the Weebill, it seems it does work with the P4K and some additional weights.. and some strange auto-translation english.. "It's a bit like Frankenstein..." (from minute 8:21) LOL : ) @Kisaha You're right, man! : )) We pay we want SOC metamorphosed to SOG : -D Kisaha, webrunner5 and shooter 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 ...this is GH5S, but wanted to point out it would be great if there’s s gimbal which also comes with a strap in mind. Some harness like there is for dual cameras would be a great addon for heavier setups. Regarding Pocket 4k, I bet there’ll be rather soona gimbal built around it. Adept 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've heard Pocket 4K has been used on Moza Air which handles more than 3 Kg BTW: https://www.gudsen.com/moza-air-spec Seems the more interesting and most affordable solution for this camera by now. Any thoughts from any users here? What about how much hard is to set it up? shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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