Anaconda_ Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 All modes work well. Apart from the Vortex thing. Maybe I’ve misunderstood what that’s for, but it only works wth the camera pointing straight up, as if you’re filming trees. If you hold the gimbal at 90deg so the camera is pointing ahead of you, it either can’t or doesn’t rotate. I could test it with a gx80 I suppose. If it’s still the same thing, then it’s not supposed to do it and motor strength isn’t the issue. Ive not tried controlling anything on the gimbal, but I suspect it wont work. I’ll test it later though if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted November 17, 2018 Super Members Share Posted November 17, 2018 Does it make a difference balance wise if you use the dummy battery/external power pack option @Anaconda_ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I tried with the battery slot empty and it still hangs left both when I mount right side up and upside down. You could do the dummy battery and attach the power pack to thto arm and use that as a counterweight I guess. BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Having been testing on and off today I really like this gimbal, weight modifications and all. I definitely wouldn't want anything heavier. After filming a few live songs, performed specifically for the gimbal test, my arms were getting tired. You can download one of the takes below. https://mega.nz/#F!TA8URCjb!v3AOrZUdFOtpNDmTjI5XUw - 10gb, give it time to finish uploading. Artist name: Joanna Weston Song: 'The Wolf' (work in progress) I was one man crew, so excuse the peaking in one the vocal mic, I couldn't monitor while filming, and the 'soundcheck' didn't show the peaking... I guess she performed with more passion when the camera was rolling I was also interested in playing with DOF, so I made it as shallow as possible. I'm used to focusing while filming, so I'm really looking forward to getting the follow focus motor when it's available. For now though, working within this limitation, focussing by moving the camera is fine, though in the real world I'll stop down the lens and give myself more room to move. Here's my setup and settings for those interested: ProRes 422 4096x2160 24p iso 400 180 deg shutter Sigma 30mm f.14 Viltrox EF-M2 (made Sigma into f1.0) Camera audio - internal microphones 1 x Vocal mic 1 x Guitar mic 1 x Guitar line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Oh forgot to say. My above test was shot with the gimbal in POV mode, which allows you to get up to 45 degree tilts. As far as I can tell, no other modes allow tilts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 @Anaconda_ can you upload a light bit rate version on Vimeo? Still puzzled... what's your final verdict from your experience for such P4K + Weebill LAB combo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I love it. If you don't mind adding weights onto the arm to counter balance, it's great. The only other grievance I have is being unable to focus while filming, but that's the same issue with every gimbal, and can be remedied once their follow focus becomes available. I can't find it anywhere, but the product name is 'CMF-04' If someone can find a seller, please let me know. I don't have a Vimeo account and the free version only allows 500mb uploads. For me that defeats the point of making the 422 file available for download. I'll do my own grade on this shot and put it on YouTube though if you like. Then at least you can see how smooth it is. I'll post when it's up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: I love it. If you don't mind adding weights onto the arm to counter balance, it's great. The only other grievance I have is being unable to focus while filming, but that's the same issue with every gimbal, and can be remedied once their follow focus becomes available. I can't find it anywhere, but the product name is 'CMF-04' If someone can find a seller, please let me know. I don't have a Vimeo account and the free version only allows 500mb uploads. For me that defeats the point of making the 422 file available for download. I'll do my own grade on this shot and put it on YouTube though if you like. Then at least you can see how smooth it is. I'll post when it's up. Yeah, that would be nice, thanks : ) So, don't you see any issue other than adding weights to match the P4K camera balance there? As smooth as any smaller camera or other gimbal you bet? Doesn't it come with their own follow focus already and all included? shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Making an export now. I don't see any issues. For my setup, with the Sigma 30mm 1.4 I need to add 250g onto the arm to balance it out. That may or may not be a problem for some. A lighter lens will probably need less weight. I've never used any other gimbal, and haven't put a smaller camera on this, but my results are very smooth and I can definitely for see myself using it professionally. The gimbal comes in 3 packages, at varying prices, but for some reason in Holland I can only buy it at the most basic, so the FF was not included in my kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: Making an export now. I don't see any issues. For my setup, with the Sigma 30mm 1.4 I need to add 250g onto the arm to balance it out. That may or may not be a problem for some. A lighter lens will probably need less weight. I've never used any other gimbal, and haven't put a smaller camera on this, but my results are very smooth and I can definitely for see myself using it professionally. The gimbal comes in 3 packages, at varying prices, but for some reason in Holland I can only buy it at the most basic, so the FF was not included in my kit. Thanks : ) Where have you purchased it? Where have you seen it with the 3 package options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 https://www.proav.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=weebill Standard - Creator - Master Package. I didn't want/need the other stuff in the packages, and like I say, they're not yet available here, so I just bought that standard to use for now and will get the follow focus down the line. Test video will be live here when YouTube are ready: Download the original files here (10gb): https://mega.nz/#F!TA8URCjb!v3AOrZUdFOtpNDmTjI5XUw We're going to do another session tonight, turn the mics down, close the aperture and boost the ISO. shooter, androidlad, webrunner5 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Are the electronic controls ready to P4K right away? shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 No electronic controls at all. Maybe that'll change in the future, but it's not something I'm all that interesting in personally. If your using a phone with the gimbal, I suppose you could get a BMD app and use that to start/stop or adjust your settings. I just used the touchscreen on the camera to set everything and trigger recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenscamera Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Anyone familiar with or have used Feiyu Tech gimbals to comment about their quality? Another gimbal option for the BMP4K I just stumbled across is the Feiyu Tech AK4000 and I am actually considering or the Moza Air 2. shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Here's another quick test with the Weebill. This time with the nifty fifty. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turboguard Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I just put down an order for the G2X with Nucleus Nano for 600 bux! Never owned a gimbal before so will be interesting. All videos I’ve seen online says it’s a good gimbal and they’ve now shown it with the P4K multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenscamera Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Turboguard said: I just put down an order for the G2X with Nucleus Nano for 600 bux! Never owned a gimbal before so will be interesting. All videos I’ve seen online says it’s a good gimbal and they’ve now shown it with the P4K multiple times. $600 for G2X with Nucleus Nano!! Black Friday deal? Please who's selling this, that's a great deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turboguard Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Lenscamera said: $600 for G2X with Nucleus Nano!! Black Friday deal? Please who's selling this, that's a great deal! Tilta from their own website. $618 with shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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